...And they can't communicate, as this slumdog comment proves:

"The example you have quoted just comes from the view point that its assumed that if people do not understand your English, you are very smart. The English Indian write is not as pathetic as you are saying."

It's actually even worse, as anyone who has worked with slumdog scabs can attest.  And this article seems to be just one of many in a pattern of retribution aimed at the slumdog scabs, like the recent NYT article that exposes the "Myth of the Indian Software Genius" and calls it a fabrication of NASSCOM.

May 23, 2012, 6:22 am

An Open Letter to India’s Graduating Classes

Namas Bhojani for The New York TimesStudents prepare for summer placements at the Indian Institute of Management (IIM), Bangalore, in this  November 10, 2008 file photo.

Dear Graduates and Post-Graduates,

This is your new employer. We are an Indian company, a bank, a consulting firm, a multinational corporation, a public sector utility and everything in between. We are the givers of your paycheck, of the brand name you covet, of the references you will rely on for years to come and of the training that will shape your professional path.

Millions of you have recently graduated or will graduate over the next few weeks. Many of you are probably feeling quite proud – you’ve landed your first job, discussions around salaries and job titles are over, and you’re ready to contribute.

Life is good – except that it’s not. Not for us, your employers, at least. Most of your contributions will be substandard and lack ambition, frustrating and of limited productivity. We are gearing ourselves up for broken promises and unmet expectations. Sorry to be the messenger of bad news.

Today, we regret to inform you that you are spoiled. You are spoiled by the “India growth story”; by an illusion that the Indian education system is capable of producing the talent that we, your companies, most crave; by the imbalance of demand and supply for real talent; by the deceleration of economic growth in the mature West; and by the law of large numbers in India, which creates pockets of highly skilled people who are justly feted but ultimately make up less than 10 percent of all of you.

So why this letter, and why should you read on? Well, because based on collective experience of hiring and developing young people like you over the years, some truths have become apparent. This is a guide for you and the 15- to 20-year-olds following in your footsteps – the next productive generation of our country. Read on to understand what your employers really want and how your ability to match these wants can enrich you professionally.

There are five key attributes employers typically seek and, in fact, will value more and more in the future. Unfortunately, these are often lacking in you and your colleagues.

1.You speak and write English fluently: We know this is rarely the case. Even graduates from better-known institutions can be hard to understand.

Exhibit No. 1: Below is an actual excerpt from a résumé we received from a “highly qualified and educated” person. This is the applicant’s “objective statement:”

“To be a part of an organization wherein I could cherish my erudite dexterity to learn the nitigrities of consulting”

Huh? Anyone know what that means? We certainly don’t.

And in spoken English, the outcomes are no better. Whether it is a strong mother tongue influence, or a belief (mistakenly) that the faster one speaks the more mastery one has, there is much room for improvement. Well over half of the pre-screened résumés lack the English ability to effectively communicate in business.

So the onus, dear reader, is on you – to develop comprehensive English skills, both written and oral.

2. You are good at problem solving, thinking outside the box, seeking new ways of doing things: Hard to find. Too often, there is a tendency to simply wait for detailed instructions and then execute the tasks – not come up with creative suggestions or alternatives.

Exhibit No. 2: I was speaking with a colleague of mine who is a chartered accountant from Britain and a senior professional. I asked him why the pass percentage in the Indian chartered accountant exam was so low and why it was perceived as such a difficult exam.

Interestingly (and he hires dozens of Indian chartered accountants each year), his take is as follows: the Indian exam is no harder than the British exam. Both focus on the application of concepts, but since the Indian education system is so rote-memorization oriented, Indian students have a much more difficult time passing it than their British counterparts.

Problem-solving abilities, which are rarely taught in our schooling system, are understandably weak among India’s graduates, even though India is the home of the famous “jugadu,” the inveterate problem solver who uses what’s on hand to find a solution. Let’s translate this intrinsic ability to the workforce.

3. You ask questions, engage deeply and question hierarchy: How we wish!

Exhibit No. 3: Consistently, managers say that newly graduated hires are too passive, that they are order-takers and that they are too hesitant to ask questions. “Why can’t they pick up the phone and call when they do not understand something?” is a commonly asked question.
You are also unduly impressed by titles and perceived hierarchy. While there is a strong cultural bias of deference and subservience to titles in India, it is as much your responsibility as it is ours to challenge this view.

4. You take responsibility for your career and for your learning and invest in new skills: Many of you feel that once you have got the requisite degree, you can go into cruise control. The desire to learn new tools and techniques and new sector knowledge disappears. And we are talking about you 25- to 30-year-olds – typically the age when inquisitiveness and hunger for knowledge in the workplace is at its peak.

Exhibit No. 4: Recently, our new hires were clamoring for training. Much effort went into creating a learning path, outlining specific courses (online, self-study) for each team. With much fanfare, an e-mail was sent to the entire team outlining the courses.

How many took the trainings? Less than 15 percent. How many actually read the e-mail? Less than 20 percent.

The desire to be spoon-fed, to be directed down a straight and narrow path with each career step neatly laid out, is leading you toward extinction, just like the dinosaurs. Your career starts and ends with you. Our role, as your employer, is to ensure you have the tools, resources and opportunities you need to be successful. The rest is up to you.

5. You are professional and ethical: Everyone loves to be considered a professional. But when you exhibit behavior like job hopping every year, demanding double-digit pay increases for no increase in ability, accepting job offers and not appearing on the first day, taking one company’s offer letter to shop around to another company for more money — well, don’t expect to be treated like a professional.
Similarly, stretching yourself to work longer hours when needed, feeling vested in the success of your employer, being ethical about expense claims and leaves and vacation time are all part of being a consummate professional. Such behavior is not ingrained in new graduates, we have found, and has to be developed.

So what can we conclude, young graduates?

My message is a call to action: Be aware of these five attributes, don’t expect the gravy train to run forever, and don’t assume your education will take care of you. Rather, invest in yourself – in language skills, in thirst for knowledge, in true professionalism and, finally, in thinking creatively and non-hierarchically. This will hold you in good stead in our knowledge economy and help lay a strong foundation for the next productive generation that follows you.

Together, I hope we, your employer, and you, the employee, can forge an enduring partnership.

The author is a partner with KPMG, and these are his personal views.


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United States Dean
May 31. 2012 12:06
Dean

I don't know what to say...what does one say after everything that needs to be said has been....the above points pretty much sum up every scheming indian shit-bird moron I've ever worked with - and it's coming from another indian...???....the end...


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Canada ezygoer
May 31. 2012 12:23
ezygoer

But you are cheap pliable tools (grunts) for the labor arbitrage games we here at Corp. America play to fatten our bottomline and you are greedy for the $$, like us, and want to desperately come to America.

So we will exploit you to the hilt and you(and your wives) will take advantage of this and come over to make a few bucks thus destroying any prospects for our home grown work force.

May your numbers multiply !!  


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United States James
May 31. 2012 14:28
James

Wow so now we have Karnik himself spilling the beans. The whole country, even the globalists at the NYT KNOW what the cause of our economic mess is - the mass importation of millions of faking useless slumdogs pretending to be IT workers propped up by gobs of NASSCOM PR. Will the stupid MBAs running American businesses FINALLY get it? Or will they keep believing the NASSCOM hype? We've been in the gutter for 14 years because of this ARMY OF CONMEN from India. And now the US is waking up to the fact. You can't import a 3rd world workforce and get a 1st world economy. It's that simple. Techies have been telling USA this FACT for the past 14 years but no one believed us - until now. Looks like we finally win and India loses. It was inevitable. This is huge front-page news.

Now what are we going to do about the $10 trillion or so India has stolen from us?

Oh, and BTW, Japan doesn't want these losers either:

www.nytimes.com/.../...lings-to-cautious-ways.html

Game over India. I hear there is a future in toilet factories in India.


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United States Tunnel_cat
May 31. 2012 14:50
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United States I have got next chick
May 31. 2012 20:15
I have got next chick

I have no doubt in my mind that Overhyped shithole indian workers will wreck this entire world economy but still they will never accept that they are most dumbest race ever existed in this world

They are parasitic breed whose sole purpose to seek new hosts and constantly feed on them until they die

The sole objective of this parasitc race is to feed on others productivity and constantly lie through their teeth that they are some useful race of people

I have strong suspicion that JEWS are out burst of Indian parasitism which history has ignored for so long and historians have not produced the complete account of this parasitic frauds

India is home to all the worlds diseases and filth, its a place where most decadent and filthiest humans are born and live without iota of shame

Their whole purpose of existence is to operate in clandestine manner and destroy the productivity of every nation    


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United States Drifter
May 31. 2012 21:46
Drifter

When the wind changes and we start seeing articles like these from media like the NYT - it's safe to say public opinion is changing.

From the inside, we've been shouting from the rooftops about the inability to communicate, poor problem solving skills, nepotism and complete inaction without specific direction. And they carry on with a smug attitude thinking they are relevant and even superior. Wow.

So right - you can't carry on the myth forever, and so here we are. The cracks started to show a while ago but they are widening now. The 'highly skilled' and 'best and brightest' has been exposed for what is actually is - a stage prop with no content behind. Just raw 2x4's holding the image up.

You turkeys can put your sunglasses away now. You aren't cool anymore. You've been exposed as poseurs and now the New York Times is along for the ride.

- Visas are being denied at an unheard of rate
- The cost of the visas have been increased
- The best india can do is whine to the WTO
- It's beginning to affect india's economy
- india's 'crown jewel' infosys is under investigation by the feds

Outsourcing is in freefall mode and the gravy train is over.

We didn't buy it from the start anyway.


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United States Slum_Doogie
June 1. 2012 03:31
Slum_Doogie

Homosexuality and bisexuality are  seen more in whites ( more in americas)  than any other race

Like it or not but whiteys are doomed down the road.  Your pure form will be extinct in few hundred years at this rate.

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United States Slum_Doogie
June 1. 2012 03:46
Slum_Doogie

Game over whiteboys. Your kinds are turning gay in large numbers because your DNA is defective.

Too bad sooo sad  .....

Smile


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United States James
June 1. 2012 04:55
James

I wonder what Prof. Vivek Fraudhwa (aka Mr. Turtleneck) thinks about this one. He's in a bit of a spot on this one - if he continues to spout the line NASSCOM is paying him for, he risks terminal damage to his cred. OTOH what else is he going to do? Go back to tech and try to run some companies again? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!


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United States Dean
June 1. 2012 09:46
Dean

what's with all the gay talk? Sounds like some indian turd-burgler wants to choke down some cock.....have fun...


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United States James
June 1. 2012 10:36
James

@Slum_Doogie

"Game over whiteboys. Your kinds are turning gay in large numbers because your DNA is defective."

So now that we have exposed and proven the MASSIVE FRAUD that are Indians, you have to change the argument to "Americans are gay". You people are pathetic with your "look over there!" mentality to deflect attention from the MASSIVE FAILS you cause everywhere you go.

You could be 10 billion in number for all we care. 1 American is still smarter and more productive than 1 billion of you people. The world could care less how MANY of you there are - cockroaches and rats multiply too but are generally seen as pests, not productive.

Keep dreaming. USA is not going away, white people are not going away, India is going exacly nowhere. Now that it's all over the MSM in the US, you people are doomed.

What are you going to do once you are all deported? Work in a toilet factory?

LOL.


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United States Slum_Doogie
June 1. 2012 23:02
Slum_Doogie

Made in China  

http://www.cnbc.com/id/47631526/


Stop blaming slumdogs .  You Scum Dogs are the real problem.


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Germany These people are waste
June 2. 2012 08:15
These people are waste

Hello,Only 200 Indians on temporary Visas work in Japan that too on low wages

Moreover There are large pool of Contract workers in Japan and cost of living is so high

People from india have no Talent,I work at German Railway company called Deutsche Bahn.

Our team visited India and were curious to enter into Indian Logistics market, what we found out is abysmal maintenance of standards

Whole Railway Lines must be altered and more over Since British left  India

Indians have Spent over € 7 Billion  and have accomplished not even 10 percent of what British did with 80 percent less expenses


I still cant fathom how these people are able to construct proper sanitation facilities during Bronze age Indus valley civilization

After looking at india, i found that most of people are Corrupt

I felt that its only politicians but thats not true,Corruption is the Culture there and People have no shame

They have extreme Hippocratic Society and People are simply unwilling to change and Accept their mistakes

I strongly felt that no Business can Succeed in India, they may make some Profits on Short term by employing cheap labor but the country has no hope they have no morality or human values left in them

Atleast australian Aboriginals and Africans have some sense of self respect

We at Duetsche Bahn are Working with South African government for Launching new ICE Railway's

We are even Working with Russians and Ukranians


I can whole heartedly say this Truth--"No nation and No Ethnic Group on Earth is So corrupt,arrogant without any Accomplishments and at same time Highly Hippocratic as Indians"


Germany is a nation of 28 Million Work Force and we are Largest Economy in EU

28 million German Productivity seems 10000 Times higher than 1 Billion Indian Productivity

I mean I am not belittling Indians, but truth is out Open

No German Arrogantly Boasts that His Country is Home Largest Pool of Nobel Prize winners,Philosophers,Productive people

No German boasts that he is living in superpower of Europe

But without even a minuscule Accomplishments i see, Indian Railway Officers Boast their Nation as Super power


I still dont understand one thing--What exactly is this Superpower Obsession and

what are some Qualifications needed inorder to Announce a nation as superpower?


I mean Germany can Build Few Fighter Jets like Eurocopter any Time,Germany Can test Nuclear weapons or even Enrich Uranium at any time

It takes 10 Days for German Scientists to Test a New Nuclear Bomb

And i still hear that --India has Nuclear weapons and Germans have no Nuclear Weapons and that qualifies them as Superpower in their media

What an utter nonsense is this---It takes 1 month for German Aeronautical Engineers to launch new Version of Eurocopter typhoon which indians can't even dream in their wildest imaginations





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United States James
June 2. 2012 11:43
James

@Germany These people are waste

"I still dont understand one thing--What exactly is this Superpower Obsession and
what are some Qualifications needed inorder to Announce a nation as superpower?"

It goes back to the 90s you see. In the 90s Internet came along and for 1st time India began to see how the rest of the world is and how far behind they are.

Also in the 90s USA triumphed over everyone else and our economy was booming (until we began letting Indians in by the millions in 1999.

Communist states collapsed, USA boomed, plus the IT boom which made lots of people in the USA rich. Add to that the computerized victory of the USA in Gulf War 1 which astounded the whole world, even China.

So Indians, being the prestige lusters that they are started all this fake PR "India a superpower" crap to ape the west. Plus they flooded into the US by the millions and became very arrogant even though USA's economy has gone down the toilet since then (biggest recession in 70 years).

The banking crisis? Housing crisis? Collapse of the economy in 2001 and 2008? All caused by slumdogs.

I am sure we do not have to tell you Germans DO NOT let these slumdogs get a foothold in your country in any large numbers else they will ruin you like they ruined the USA.

I always considered myself an open and fair person before all this but since these insane marble-mouthed retards invaded and destroyed the USA, but no more. This is the exact kind of thing that gives rise to a Hitler decades later after the people have had enough.


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Canada ezygoer
June 2. 2012 12:30
ezygoer

Total headcount of IT firms in India incl. likes of IBM is about 500K whose revenues from the US total about 60% of gross.

But they are making money for Corp. America even though they have all the challenges listed above.

So the low cost model and Corp.American greed has killed the American techie's growth and prosperity which is evident by the high unemployment rate in the US.


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Islamic Republic of Pakistan Babu
June 3. 2012 00:04
Babu

Dealt with an sffshore slumdog last week. I asked him to do a simple file extract for a certain day's transactions for an upper management demo. The guy ran a differernt day's data and edited the dates, then preseneted me with the file. When the data was found to be out of proof, I tried to reach the guy. He didn't respond for 2 days. When I finally did reach hi, hre tried to haggle with me over accepting the bad date he provided. WTF?! Does he think this is some haggle in the bazaar over the price of a friggin' goat? I had to do it myself in the end.


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United States James
June 3. 2012 04:31
James

@ezygoer

Total headcount of IT firms in India incl. likes of IBM is about 500K whose revenues from the US total about 60% of gross.

But they are making money for Corp. America even though they have all the challenges listed above"


State of IN is suing IBM for $867 million for a failed solution. There are dozens of other lawsuits pending. As Robert Cringely predicted, IBM will be gone in 5-10 years. Just like Sun, Bell Labs, PeopleSoft, and everything else these faking frauds from India have touched. EVERYTHING THEY TOUCH DIES.

"Low cost" is stupid and destructive. Henry Ford said "I have to pay my people enough to enable them to buy my products".  Companies can't exist without someone to consume their products. Stupid.

One bright note: at least I got that stupid slumdog moron Anil Bhavnani out of the US for good. He's now working for Yahoo! India (and Yahoo is going down the tubes now too).

http://www.linkedin.com/in/anilbhav

I see he's added C/C++ to his buzzword list. It wasn't there a few months ago. What a conman!


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Germany These people are waste
June 3. 2012 18:18
These people are waste

@ You have to speak german in Germany to get a job, unless you are hired by Banking sector or Bulge bracket consulting firms like Boston consulting

Only American Firms in germany hire People who speak english,but if you want to work in Start-ups or Middle SME sector you have to speak german

We call these firms are mittelstand ,you see a lot of growth in these firms as headcount is small, salarys are good and they work in new technologies

We even have Middle SME research centers like Forschung zentraum Jülich which hires   German speakers

------------Honestly speaking, i think most indians move into English speaking countries as they can speak atleast broken english ,thanks to english colonization......


But its hard for Indians to learn a new language , I mean their IQ levels are so low and its not easy to learn a new language at mid 20's

and moreover  they cant find their brethren in HR positions in Germany or Swiss

So nepotism will not work like it use to in INDIA

Its hard for INDIANS to penetrate into German Market, i am not saying that there are no indians in Germany

Ofcourse they are, they mostly work for Banking,Alliance Insurance, or American IT firms

Not many enter into German Research Centers or Mid tier german Companies and hiring policies are quite different

Here in Germany no one Knows IIT so if you have this Tag , it doesnt matter

This is not true in canada,UK,USA--people will use this IIT tag to enter into British firms

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Nordic way of living and working is different from Rest of Europe let alone Over hyped india


You must be listening about EURO ZONE recession, but have you ever heard a German Complain?, a Swiss shouting and protesting that his jobs were lost?

Any protests in Sweden,Denmark,Norway,Finalnd,NEtherlands,Austria?--Not even single protest happened?

Why?--Because there very low unemployment--in swiss unemployment is 1.8 percent

germany its 4.2 percent and most of them who are unemployed are nearing their retirement age


I am not a NAZI, but i think Race mixing has done a Lot of harm to South EU countries

Their culture and work ethic was destroyed and they lost their purpose

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My observation looking at indian railways is that--Entire railway lines must be altered

How can you run a German ICE on a Track that was Built on Stainless stell while Copper Brass junctions?

What i mean is--Dothese people atleast understand how to Lay Tracks?, what material needs to be used to Design the tracks?

They are using old british model and that model is Extinct


The railway officer says that Japanese Rejected to built Bullet trains for Indians

What  a joke, how can you run Bullet Train on that Track?


And when our Site manager said that We need change Entire Railway Track line in Delhi to Launch New Trains

Indian manager of Bharat Raiways --told us that Their Railway Technology is world

class and they Run Longest Track line in the world and They are Proud of this acheivement(What is there to be proud of?--British built it and these people are using it, technology that they use has become extinct)

They dont understand that the Railway mishaps that happen in their nation is not due Driver's callousness but their technology has become extinct

----

Just think about this

How can you drive Porsche on Mud road?, even if you drive it, you have to consult Porsche dealer to Repair it Frequently


These people want German Technology but dont understand how to operate it.

They are like a Pre-teen girls who wants every new dress that they see in Shopping mall but become bored once they used 5 times


They dont understand technology and Science..Sorry to bust their EGO, they are good at Farming not Engineering

Indus valley civilization is a Farming based civilization

If you read about that Civilization, you will understand that they have designed new tools in bronze age for Farming

May be Indians and South Asians are Good at Farming

They can do well if they stick to that, they are uselessly turning their Farm land into IT business houses and are living in Fake World

Farming is Great thing


I heard that around 700 Million indians live less than $1.25 a day and 300 Million Children are malnourished

Well, may be they need to understand that they are not good at Technology and slowly progress through farming , then after slowly develop indigenous stuff


You cant develop Designs overnight--Even Mercedes was not developed overnight

Karl Benz the designer of Benz motor died in filthy poverty, his designs were now famous and Mercedes is a multi billion Euro company

But founder is a filthy poor man,he lived in bankruptcy ,poverty and some Charity for University


You see, you cant Become Superpower or what ever indians say overnight,just by IT
or sending people to work in USA

Seems indians are immature, they are feeding on other nations



Indians are not nation builders, they are just searching for greener pastures and living on other nations


In German thinking such people are called parasites

Now please dont call me NAZI, i know once german says others as parasites , he will be called NAZI

But ask yourselves a Question, aren't we right about peoples behavior?


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United States uscitizen
June 4. 2012 02:59
uscitizen

LOL...hey TR, how did it feel when those APEX guys F'ed you over in court ?
And still you have not learned shit. Sorry man, but you are pathetic.
Btw, how is that ASP project coming along...how many time did you have to reboot that winsucks box ...err wat is that ...winsucks 2010, 2012, 2014 ?

Dude, why would I pay you even $2 to write ASP/.net ? Seriously, WTF ???
And you are complaining about the fact you cant find a job coz of indians.
Dude, I would not pay you a dime. Look if someone like you (minus the racist attitude you have) came to my company, I would first give him an internship learning some real technology (JBoss, Seam, Spring, EJB 3.0,...). Then I would put you on probation for 6 months and after that offer you an entry level job.

ASP is DEAD you fuckers, Objective C will be gone soon, the future is HTML 5.0, Virtualization and cloud. Get over it and learn some real useful skills. Go JAVA!!!!


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United States uscitizen
June 4. 2012 03:01
uscitizen

Java rocks and fuckers like you who use Microsoft dung, suck ass.


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United States uscitizen
June 4. 2012 06:38
uscitizen

@bla bla...waste

Are you kidding ? After all those poor jews you guys killed, who the F wants to immigrate to that shit hole ? Only time I deal with you guys are when I hop on a Lufthansa flight and get some free beer. I wudnt immigrate there even if you paid me a billion $ or Euro/mark or whatever crap you guys circulate there.

Buh bye NAZI


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United States James
June 4. 2012 07:57
James

"ASP is DEAD you fuckers, Objective C will be gone soon, the future is HTML 5.0, Virtualization and cloud. Get over it and learn some real useful skills. Go JAVA!!!!"

What an ignorant moron. This guy obviously doesn't understand that language migration in huge installed bases is next to impossible. It's only been done a few times in the past 50 years. C has been around for 40 years, Objective-C for almost 25. Hundreds of millions of apps have been written in C-variant languages. C drives every TCP/IP stack and most drivers on planet earth. You're not going to be re-writing that in HTML5 you moron. And you're not going to rewrite Word or Photoshop in it either.

What an ignoramus! This guy doesn't know the first thing about tech. He's just some script kiddie who can only do web stuff because it's easy crap anyone can do. Give him a stack trace to debug and he's be calling his buddies in Mumbai asking them how to do it.

You're not going to be doing anything hardware related in Java or Objective-C and Java will never run on iOS devices. It's waaaay to slow for that. This loser doesn't even understand there are performance penalties with all interpreted languages like Java.

So much for the Indiots being the best and brightest at tech. These morons are amateur script kiddies wanting to be professional programmers. No wonder the US econ is going down the toilet.

C and Objective-C aren't going away anytime soon.

Oh, and Indians are dying to bust into Germany and Canada - after all, they can't get jobs in INDIA and USA won't let anymore of them in. In their desperation they look to superachievers like Germany and Japan for jobs, but neither of those 2 countries wants them!

Must really suck living like a locust knowing you will never amount to anything or create anything and only live by sucking off others like the parasites you are.

As for Indians not wanting to move to Germany, better thing again: NASSCOM is already pumping out the propaganda:

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../11916306.cms


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United States James
June 4. 2012 07:59
James

As for Nazis, that would be Indians, not Germans:

Indian business students snap up copies of Mein Kampf

www.telegraph.co.uk/.../...pies-of-Mein-Kampf.html

The west is fully aware of the new Nazism rising in Asia.


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United States Dean
June 4. 2012 10:17
Dean

I've read this article again and again, and I'm fascinated by it every time I go through it. Not so much because Chandra says exactly what myself and every non-retard/non-job robber have been saying for about 10 years, BUT because not only is it an indian that is preaching the truth about how inept and corrupt indians are, but also because this guy works for a consulting company - which are notorious for being slumdog-shit-for-brain-lovers ( I can't think of one consulting company that doesn't think that indian dumbshits are the best thing since sliced bread ). For this guy to go out on a limb and write an op-ed piece is really something else. And you know that if indians themselves think like this about other junior-dumb-ass indians, it's got to be that the whole world is sharing these opinions ? how could it not be.  IT used to be a prized profession, a prestigeous calling, you were looked up to. Lying slumdog morons have turned it into dystopian wasteland; nobody with any brains wants to enter this field any more. There's no quality or integrity, the indians turds have turned it into toilet of a job - just like what goes on their crappy country. Just a bunch of filthy robot fuck-heads... We didn't raise things for them, they ended up lowering things for us. I hope I live to see the day when they are kicked out of this country...I doubt it will happen, but if it ever does, then I'll know that there's at least a little justice in this world...


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Canada ezygoer
June 5. 2012 11:10
ezygoer

@James

"Low cost" is stupid and destructive.  
But instantly profitable for Corp. America - IBM stock has gone from 40-200

Henry Ford said "I have to pay my people enough to enable them to buy my products"

Even with the UAW accepting less Ford employees can but can Ford sell enough to the "sheeple" to remain competitive ? Seems so for now

IBM will not go belly up - the hardware business will keep it going.
Work is not going to stop being done offshore for a long time as long as India Inc. operates in the US/EU. If the 2 economies pick up more will be let offshore.

All this is to the detriment of the US/EU work force but who is gonna change the status quo?


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United States Purple Haze
June 5. 2012 11:42
Purple Haze

@Dean - Ohh the crafty art of piggybacking the nationality of Paul Graham, Linus Torvalds, Dennis Ritchie et al. and claiming to be another genius by extrapolating their mettle! Amusing, nonetheless! ;)

How about listing down individual contributions instead of basking in the glory of a collective population? May be links to some github repositories or some FOSS contribution to attest your [and I mean your] mettle??

As for the language, I cannot stoop down to a level so low [read unprofessional, too] to sound obscene. I don't, however, expect a decently constructed response in reply, though!


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United States James
June 5. 2012 13:28
James

Can anyone name even 1 computer language that cam from India or China? Ruby came from Japan. HTML from Brit. That's about it. Everything else came mostly from Americans in America. The world owes America.

As for MY personal contributions, 30 successful commercial software products, including code at Apple and Sony just to mention a few. I wrote the entire suite of audio development tools for Playstation at Sony.

Guess I am one of the skilled Americans companies "can't find".

Guess I haven't contributed enough to deserve to be employed.....

Guess 16 hours a day for 2 decades before a slumdog ever set foot in America wasn't good enough. Nope. Should have given my life itself too to Korporate America. Maybe then I would deemed "worthy" to work.

And while I was doing all of the above, the slumdogs were sitting around doing nothing waiting for Americans do to all the hard work so the slumdogs could walk in and take it all over. How's that for "fair"?

Globalization is the new communism. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. And India and China are the neediest countries on earth. America is dying because America is being subjected to communism.


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United States James
June 5. 2012 14:35
James

I can assure you offshoring will stop. When will it stop? When we have WW3 which is any day now. You see, America's greedy businessmen traded with Japan and Germany in the 1920s and 1930s. England's Rolls Royce even went so far as to build the Luftwaffe's factories for them. And we all know both IBM and Union Bank worked with Hitler. Where did all that greed lead? It led to World War 2 of course. The Trading With Enemies Act was passed as a result but that law is now being ignored and we are once again trading with enemies. Except this time it is with India, China, and Russia, just to name a few. Those countries are already now more powerful than we are. And they bitterly resent America's dominance of the world. How do you think this is going to turn out for America? We are currently even selling India our most advanced weapons! We've either got idiots or suicidal maniacs running the country. Offshoring will stop - but it will be too late then. And once our elites realize their mistake, they will demand that it be the American public Who go fight and die, not them. History is repeating itself. Except this time it is going to be WW2 X 10000.

Buckle up.


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United States Tunnel Cat
June 5. 2012 15:38
Tunnel Cat

@Moron Dean / @ Fucktard James / @ German ( aahh fuck u Piece of shit )/ @Babu ( Pakistani .. asshole )

To all you dickhead's read this, more Indian's on there way .... Smileall you pussies can do is bark and show your frustration on this blog.

www.ndtv.com/.../hired-by-twitter-iitian-from-madhya-pradesh-heads-to-california-224433

Tell you what, go back to school and learn proper MATH and come back then lets talk who is fit enough to work in IT.

@jAMES

What's up with Anil Bhavani man ?? did he roayally screwed you ? Looser go get a life.

@Dean

"I hope I live to see the day when they are kicked out of this country...I doubt it will happen, but if it ever does, then I'll know that there's at least a little justice in this world..."

woww what a master class ... are you for real ?

@ Babu

Not even worth to say something to you fuckin pakistani scumbag _|_ .

@German

Typical German attitude ... You are fit to work in Railways !!!!!






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Germany Cockroaches Built USA?
June 5. 2012 19:19
Cockroaches Built USA?

Just check the link and understand the ignorance of these morons who think that they have built USA from scratch

,timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../13845075.cms


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United States joshua
June 6. 2012 00:23
joshua

I saw these two articles right next to each other on msnbc,
one says the unemployment rate for new college grads is 50%,
the other says 3.9% ?

what am I missing?

today.msnbc.msn.com/id/47567793/ns/today-money/

lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/.../12010738-unemployment-data-highlights-growing-educational-divide


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United States James
June 6. 2012 05:09
James

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=2397

Fired Just for Being American

As proof, Otto cited Chief Information Officer Amir Desai, who was brought from India by President John Molina. Desai was overheard saying: “I will not hire any Americans.”


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United States uscitizen
June 6. 2012 09:26
uscitizen

@TunnelTurd,

My comments too hot to post ? Truth hurts you losers.

Purple haze above sums it pretty well "Ohh the crafty art of piggybacking the nationality of Paul Graham, Linus Torvalds, Dennis Ritchie et al. and claiming to be another genius by extrapolating their mettle! Amusing, nonetheless! ;) "

Thats all James and you can do.
You are not real Americans. Maybe you are the ones that need to pack and leave.

Math rules, Java Rules, Go Open Source !!!!!!!!!!!
Ha ha


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United States Purple Haze
June 6. 2012 16:11
Purple Haze

@ James - I am not questioning the credibility of your software development skills. I can very well think of you as a top-notch developer who has contributed to successful commercial software suites. What irks me is the derision that you show towards an entire nation with your 'eclectic' choice of words. There are undeniably serious flaws to visa policies but painting an entire nation with words as derogatory as 'slumdogs' are just unacceptable, instigate nothing but a fight of words that delineates everyone from the very pressing topic in hand and ends up being nothing but just a sputter of profanity. If you look at the American macro economic situation, it is not just IT that's causing all the economic trouble. I think you cannot deny the fact (if you want to engage in a constructive and rational argument) that the very bulk of any industrialized nation;s work force is comprised of blue collar workers. With them forming the major chunk of the work force and the work being taken away from them, an economy can never improve. Sadly, however, getting the manufacturing jobs back won't be an easy task considering all the trade deficits, external loans and the global economy into count.

However, coming back to programming jobs, there's no denying that there are a lot of fraudulent activities that warrant a strict enforcement/changes in policies. However - consider this best case scenario - H1b program is stopped and all the IT jobs are given back to Americans. How much difference would it make in the entire American economy. Do a statistical analysis and you'll know it'll just make a minuscule difference [before you start ranting that American economy was booming till 1998 and it's only H1b that caused the entire mess]. And also, this is considering the best case that all unemployed Americans in IT are adept at programming. In my short span of IT, I have seen the best and worst of both sides. I have had the opportunity to work with some of the brightest American programmers and some that were not worth a penny, considering how rigid they were in terms of new language adoption and obfuscated their thought process were. Same goes for Indian programmers or whatever nationalities the programmers belong to.

However, stereotyping and generalizing just proves one's ignorance and constricted thought process. To add to it, when it comes to taking pride in contribution and excellence, I feel it's the personal contribution that actually counts.

Just being a citizen of a country that has given some of the best developers, evangelists, programmers to the world doesn't make a person another genius!


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United States James
June 6. 2012 16:12
James

Indians screwed up Dubai prosperity: Bankruptcies impact India

rupeenews.com/.../

Dubai was overrun by Indians. THey used it as a base to attempt to spread India Inc to the Middle East. Now the chickens have come to roost. Dubai provided about 20% of the GDP of the Bharati (aka Indian) state of Karela. With many businesses going bankrupt in Dubai the migrant workers are headed back home. Other nationalities are also affected, but most of the Pakistanis were in Abu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia etc. A large section of the population of Dubai was Indian. Dubai has very strict bankruptcy laws. It is impossible to stay in the state, if one does not have a job. So the migrants are leaving in droves. The impact of the financial downturn in Dubai impact the New York stock exchange, but its impact on Mumbai is in incalculable.


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United States James
June 6. 2012 16:26
James

@uscitizen

We "losers" invented IT long before slumdogs set foot in America. As for what we can do, I wrote software at Apple, Sony, Hitachi, just to name a few. You didn't. We also had the US economy booming before you got here. Look at it now and look at what you've done to it. Torvalds is not an American you moron.

If you knew anything about software development, you would know most software prodcuts involve very little math unless you are working on a scientific application or on rockets or something. Java sucks. No one uses that crap. It is so bad Sun went out of business. It's good for some server side crap, that is all. I don't see it being used on the desktop or iOS.

Bill Gates once remarked "Open Source is tantamount to communism".

But I guess you identifiy with that well since you are a Soviet ally and think other productive countries owe you a living.

Go find someone else to rob job robber.


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United States James
June 6. 2012 16:28
James

Wow Twitter hired one who Indiot in 2 years. What does that say about Indians? No wonder Twitter became so powerful - powered by Americans, not Indiots. Sounds like they hired a token Indiot to appease NASSCOM or something.

Delusional, as always.


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United States andhraisshit
June 6. 2012 16:45
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United States uscitizen
June 6. 2012 20:28
uscitizen

@James,

Entire audio development tools eh ??
How come you are so incompetent at Math then ?
If you have written codec libs and worked on video internals, you should be well versed at Math, and you wouldn't be making statements like "Math is not absolutely necessary to be an effective computer engineer..."

Audio and Video software internals use a lot of DSP, whose fundamentals are calculus and transforms. Unless you were *using* existing libraries and building pretty UI on top of it,...but even then you need to understand what a Big O notation means.

You are just a lying piece of turd. Maybe the desi wrote all the codecs and libraries, you just did the VB based front end LOL.

Ha ha


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United States Purple Haze
June 6. 2012 22:48
Purple Haze

@James - Torvalds is  Finnish-American!..check your facts!


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United States Purple Haze
June 7. 2012 00:39
Purple Haze

@James - "Java sucks" - you've got to be kidding dude. Have you gone do out of your mind in the process of waging a war of words that you choose to blatantly lie!?

It's niche lies in it's strength as an enterprise level platform/language and it'll be around for many years to come. With Oracle's acquisition of Sun and Oracle's plans to integrate Java frameworks with it's existing enterprise grade suites, things are only going to look better.

In the end of the day, who cares about some nifty UI stuff! HTML5, jquery, node.js are cool but it's the mid-tier/server side programming that steals the show.

Damn, did I just sound too biased and opinionated!! Smile)

Java is going strong, dude..and it'l,l for many more years.

Like it or not!


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United States James
June 7. 2012 04:51
James

@Purple Haze

"What irks me is the derision that you show towards an entire nation with your 'eclectic' choice of words."

What goes around comes around. I used to be a nice reasonable person. Really I was. But then I saw Azim premji on TV saying "America does not have the talent". And HCL's CEO saying "American grads ae unemployable" IN THE US and that's when I decided I needed to speak out. That and the 100 or so times I encountered the same thing in Korporate Amerika from Nazi-minded slumdogs. So don't come on here and lecture me about making generalizations about an entire race. Indians do it every day to Americans in our own country and these people were supposed to be here as GUESTS. What kind of guest insults his host in his own house? You people started this economic race war so now you have to live with the consequences.

"There are undeniably serious flaws to visa policies but painting an entire nation with words as derogatory as 'slumdogs' are just unacceptable"

See above. You people started it, not me. And Indians continue to generalize and denigrate Americans daily in the US and in US media and US companies. When they stop, I'll stop. Fair?

"instigate nothing but a fight of words that delineates everyone from the very pressing topic in hand and ends up being nothing but just a sputter of profanity."

As I already said, I didn't instigate anything. I was sitting in my own country working away happily until some foreign invaders came by and decided they wanted what I had and shoved me aside when they were supposed to go home a decade ago and then started badmouthing American IT workers as stupid, lazy, etc. when we invented the industry and they didn't. INSTIGATE? That would be Indians, not me. What I am doing is just SELF DEFENSE.

"If you look at the American macro economic situation, it is not just IT that's causing all the economic trouble"

No, it's Indians causing all the economic trouble. First they went to Silicon valley and cleaned that out, then they went to Detroit and it died, then they went to Wall St. and it collapsed. Everywhere these people go, economic collapse follows them. The US was booming before these people came here. The "American macro economic siutation" is caused by millions of these faking frauds from a country that can't build enough toilets taking over jobs they can't do with fake degrees and fake skills and then collapsing the companies they work at.

"I think you cannot deny the fact (if you want to engage in a constructive and rational argument) that the very bulk of any industrialized nation;s work force is comprised of blue collar workers."

Nonense. Most of USA's blue collar jobs went overseas in the 70s and 80s. In the 80s they told us to "retrain for IT" which we did and made the economy boom. It was "knowledge worker" (white collar) jobs that made the economy boom in the 90s. And that was the last industry USA had which hasn't been stolen. The VAST majority of America's jobs today and chicken minimum wage jobs or else a very few manufacturing jobs at auto plants. Almost nothing else is made in USA anymore. That and what few software jobs are left which are now occupied by slumdogs. So stop lying. America is not the blue collar manufacturing powerhouse it used to be. All that has been stolen by China.

"With them forming the major chunk of the work force and the work being taken away from them, an economy can never improve."

It wasn't blue collar jobs forming the major chunk of the workforce before the collapse - it was white collar engineering jobs. Learn some recent US history moron. And the point isn't even what jobs are what, it's the fact that they're being stolen by other countries who didn't help create them that is the issue.

"Sadly, however, getting the manufacturing jobs back won't be an easy task considering all the trade deficits, external loans and the global economy into count."

NOTHING is going to come back. Have autos and electronics come back from Japan? No, and they never will. Once something is stolen, the robbers rarely return it. Our trade deficits are caused by China not adhering to the WTO rules (i.e. national currency is required to float freely on the open market). And our immigration policies (which no other country on earth would tolerate). USA had a huge SURPLUS in 1998. We only needed to start borrowing after China sucked all the wealth out of the US by violating its WTO agreement and millions of slumdogs started siphoning our wealth through remittances and offshoring of jobs.

"However, coming back to programming jobs, there's no denying that there are a lot of fraudulent activities that warrant a strict enforcement/changes in policies. However - consider this best case scenario - H1b program is stopped and all the IT jobs are given back to Americans. How much difference would it make in the entire American economy."

Well when Americans ran IT in 1998 and no one else did, and we had no competition in IT until we brought in MILLIONS of foreign workers, the USA WAS BOOMING. If you were to take 5 million unemployed Americans and give them all top programming jobs paying $100K each, I can guarantee you the US economy would improve. Those workers would start buying tons of stuff, which would create jobs in other sectors - hiring more people, who would then also spend. This is exactly what happened in the late 90's and it's why the US boomed back then. Of course that can never happen now because we've given the industry away to other countries for free, trained their people, and gave them the jobs. I don't suppose giving away America's best industry to another country has anything to do with the collapse of the US economy, does it?

"Do a statistical analysis and you'll know it'll just make a minuscule difference [before you start ranting that American economy was booming till 1998 and it's only H1b that caused the entire mess]."

Dr. Gene Nelson, PhD has already done this statistical analysis and proved over $10 TRILLION has been stolen from US tech workers. Do you seriously believe if you gave $10 trillion Americans to spend that it would not improve the US economy? You are delusional. It won't make a miniscule difference, it would make a HUGE difference. In fact, if Americans were given $10 trillion, the US economy would boom.

"And also, this is considering the best case that all unemployed Americans in IT are adept at programming. In my short span of IT, I have seen the best and worst of both sides. I have had the opportunity to work with some of the brightest American programmers and some that were not worth a penny, considering how rigid they were in terms of new language adoption and obfuscated their thought process were. Same goes for Indian programmers or whatever nationalities the programmers belong to."

Well, when American programmers ran Silicon Valley, the US was booming. Now that Indians are running it, it's not. That's a fact and you can't avoid it. I've been in software 20 years and I have yet to meet a REALLY good Indian programmer.

"However, stereotyping and generalizing just proves one's ignorance and constricted thought process. To add to it, when it comes to taking pride in contribution and excellence, I feel it's the personal contribution that actually counts."

Can you NAME the personal contributions Indians have made to the US economy? The new inventions, the new langauages or advances in CS? Go ahead and NAME them if they are so plentiful.

"Just being a citizen of a country that has given some of the best developers, evangelists, programmers to the world doesn't make a person another genius!"

Do eskimos make the best NBA players? Are the argentinians really great at making good cars? Do the Russians make really good TV sets?

No, they don't. And Indians don't make great programmers. If they did the 3.2 million of them we have imported would be making the US boom. You're going to have to face the fact that some races are better at certain things than others. African Americans make the best NBA players. Germans and Japanese make the best cars, French make the best wine and cheese. White Americans are the best at software in the world. These are simple facts and you can't change them. What India is really good at is fakery and deception and grabbing other peoples' $.

No other countries or races cared about software before it paid a lot of $. When I started we did this because we loved making great tech. What we created and provided to the world made us rich and THEN all of a sudden the rest of the world decided it wanted that too. So they flooded America and ripped it off which is why we're in this mess now. Yet very little innovation has been produced by those people. So they obviously aren't as good as a whole at doing what we do so well.

Stop the lies. Stop the propaganda.


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United States James
June 7. 2012 05:02
James

@uscitizen

"Entire audio development tools eh ??
How come you are so incompetent at Math then ?"

How do you know I am incompetent at math? Did you write the matrix algebra software at the Port of Oakland that loads the container ships there? Well I did. I must not be that bad at math.

And if you knew anything about software development you would know most of it doesn't involve lots of math. Not unless you're working on something like container ship loading or rocket science. The playstation audio tools required very little math - most just the ADSR stuff, which is trivial math-wise. You obviously haven't developed much software.

"If you have written codec libs and worked on video internals, you should be well versed at Math, and you wouldn't be making statements like "Math is not absolutely necessary to be an effective computer engineer..."

It's not. I've written 30 commercial software products and very few of them used lots of math. If you knew anything about video game development or software you would know that nearly all video game programmers used canned libraries for codec functions. In Sony's case they have their own audio file formats and libraries developed in Japan for playstation. In fact, we weren't even allowed to see the sources to those libraries because they worried about their trade secrets getting stolen. Not all companies are as dumb as US companies and open their trade secrets up to any 3rd world robbers who want them.

"Audio and Video software internals use a lot of DSP, whose fundamentals are calculus and transforms. Unless you were *using* existing libraries and building pretty UI on top of it,...but even then you need to understand what a Big O notation means."

Throwing out a few buzzwords isn't going to make you sound like you know what you are doing. The playstation consoles have their own DSP chips built in and Sony provides DSP libraries that use them so programmers don't have to do all that work that's already been done 100 times. Only an idiot like you would waste development time rewriting DSP algorithms that have already been done 20 years ago and have been around forever. Learn how API programming works. And are you an expert on Firewire (Sony calls it iLink) too? Do you know what the cycle restart times are for both Firewire 400 and 800? How about the difference between a PHY directory and a vendor directory? What is the cs code that initiates a Firewire packet transfer on Mac OS? Stop acting like you know what you are talking about because you don't.

"You are just a lying piece of turd. Maybe the desi wrote all the codecs and libraries, you just did the VB based front end LOL."

No, the Japanese wrote their own file format manipulation libraries and the built-in DSP libraries that are in every Playstation SDK. Zero Indians work at SCEA I can assure you - because they don't want their business going down the toilet like all the American companies you ruined.

The Playstation tools were written in C/C++ and PowerPlant and Xcode. I can provide screen shots if you will send you email address.

Now go spend weeks re-writing common standard DSP libraries that we done 20 years ago and then claim Indians are "more efficient" than American programmers.


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United States Slum_Doogie
June 7. 2012 05:10
Slum_Doogie

James,TR ,dean and other lily white melanin deficient folks on this forum....


We got your main points..

1) White americans are angels
2) Slum dogs are bad and must be deported

Your ramblings are like broken record. Same crap again and again and again...

Instead of whinning, why don't you do something about it ? For an example writing / meeting your local elected officials , senators so that H1b can be abolished or severely curtailed ?  Grassley is lone wolf among Hyenas LoL
I wouldn't be surprised if H1b cap ( 65K ) is raised next year after election season

You are basically wasting your time. Everything you share here, is already known and discussed on similar forums. Folks .. Quit whinning. Take action or stfu !!!

p.s  :   Adios .. I am getting the F out of here ..( turns off light and avoids hitting door ) .  Bye suckers !!!


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Germany These people are waste
June 7. 2012 06:01
These people are waste

Kill These indian bastards,Pit indians with pakistanis

Kill them both of them

Now they have done another Fraud

Just see it

www.ice.gov/news/releases/1206/120605newark.htm


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Germany These people are waste
June 7. 2012 06:11
These people are waste

Hello all,

These indian bastards think they are some how better than others

Indian cockroaches must  understand that last 10 years of growth is fuelled by Excessive liquidity pumped into our financial system

Now austerity is on every EU nation ,sooner or later USA must employ its austerity package


They must cut spending and India is already going through worse this time

Their currency is depreciating ,Indian currency is worst performing currency in Entire ASIA

Depreciated 28 percent in ^1 year

if EU breaks apart their currency will depreciate another 30 percent

Slumdogs will have impending balance of payment crisis

they are running of Fiscal deficit and more over they have trade Deficits for around 8 quarters

I can assure you that there is an impending financial crisis awaiting INDIA

Now USA is fixing INDIA to enter into Hollow Grave yard of Afghanistan

I like the way USA operated , it provoked Both Pakistan and India now, INDIA will be compelled to Enter Into Afghanistan

thats a Grave Yard for India

USA funnelled Trillions of $ into Afghanistan, now they cant get anything, they are using Asskissers of Asia

INDIA as cannon fodder

These moronic Ape indian bastards are seduced into abetting US war

I am loving it, in 10 years from now you will have conflict in INDIA


.----------------


To the Indian fucker who told Germans are good at building only railways

Fucker we are good at many things which you cant even -dream about in your life

Moreover your filthy existence cant match even living standards and HDI development in germany

Now go back to your shithole

Past 20 years you have had some Boom and was able to see the world ,

thank other nations which invited you, Now Cockroach go back to your lavotary and live peacefully in shit by smelling each others stink  


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United States James
June 7. 2012 09:39
James

Torvalds was born in Finland. He's finnish you moron. As Teddy Roosevelt said "There is no room in America for hyphenated Americanism". Moving to America does not make you "American". In most cases it merely makes you a leech, as the collapsing US economy now shows. Torvalds is the rare exception who actually created something (based on other Americans' work). And he sure as hell didn't come from shithole Asia to job rob the USA.


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United States James
June 7. 2012 09:54
James

@Purple Haze

"Java sucks" - you've got to be kidding dude. Have you gone do out of your mind in the process of waging a war of words that you choose to blatantly lie!? It's niche lies in it's strength as an enterprise level platform/language and it'll be around for many years to come. With Oracle's acquisition of Sun and Oracle's plans to integrate Java frameworks with it's existing enterprise grade suites, things are only going to look better."

Well if it was that great, it wouldn't be a niche now would it? LOL. Thanks for disproving your own argument. Like I said it's ok for server backend crap. No one in the world wants to look at a UI front end. Dog slow, buggy, and looks like garbage.

"In the end of the day, who cares about some nifty UI stuff! HTML5, jquery, node.js are cool but it's the mid-tier/server side programming that steals the show."

Well apparently 200 million iPhone and 50 million iPad users do. Kind of hard to argue with a $500 stock price compared to OUT OF BUSINESS INVENTORS OF JAVA - SUN (which Indians destroyed BTW).

"Java is going strong, dude..and it'l,l for many more years."

C is #1, Objective-C is rapidly becoming #2, C++ and C# are #3 and Java is down on the bottom of the list somewhere. No one wants to use that crap. It's one step ahead of of script kiddie crap like PHP and JavaScript which any 5 year old can do. Don't blame Americans just because you can't get a C program running reliably without a crash.

WHAT IS BYTE SWAPPING? WHY CAN I READ THIS FILE ON A MAC BUT NOT ON A PC? WHY DOES IT CRASH ON MY MACHINE BUT NOT ON YOURS. PLEASE TRAIN ME MR. AMERICAN PROGRAMMER.

Slumdogs are beyond pathetic.


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United States James
June 7. 2012 10:03
James

@Slum_Doogie

"James,TR ,dean and other lily white melanin deficient folks on this forum...."

Thanks for confirming what a bunch of anti-white, anti-American racists you slumdogs are. Try building some toilets instead of blaming the Brits for all your problems.

"We got your main points.."

Good it took you long enough (14 years). Now STFU, go home, and try creating some jobs in your own shithole country instead of job robbing the USA.

"1) White americans are angels
2) Slum dogs are bad and must be deported"

Yes, that pretty much sums it up. And you are being deported. Uganda had to do it to get rid of you and now the USA is doing it too.

"Your ramblings are like broken record. Same crap again and again and again..."

Well it has worked - the US gov't and US companies finally got the message, despite all the paid NASSCOM PR. If you slumdogs can come to the US and lie for 14 years saying Americans are too stupid to do IT (even though we invented it and you didn't), we, as US citizens can surely tell the truth again and again about your crimes against Americans. We're not shutting up, and we're not going away. Get used to it.

"Instead of whinning, why don't you do something about it ?"

We are doing something about it - we've already gotten all visa increases stopped, you are being denied visas, and US companies are laying you off left and right. We have totally won. The whole country knows the story now thanks to us. Enjoy your unemployment back home. Your paid-for NASSCOM propaganda has failed, we the people have won. Too bad for you.

"For an example writing / meeting your local elected officials , senators so that H1b can be abolished or severely curtailed ?  Grassley is lone wolf among Hyenas LoL"

No need to. We have already changed US public opinion AGAINST you and there's nothing you can do about it. Unlike Indiots, we don't "meet" with our whore politicians and bribe them - we just hammer the truth into everyones' heads until they get it. And I can assure you, they've gotten it.

"I wouldn't be surprised if H1b cap ( 65K ) is raised next year after election season"

Keep dreaming. Ain't gonna happen. With 20% unemployment in the US, you're not going to get anymore Indiots into the US. Heck, we're denying your visas and laying you off now. Wells Fargo just laid off ALL its guest workers here on visas. Your delusions have failed you. There's no place for you in America anymore. You're ancient history, your old cons in America aren't working anymore. Go tell NASSCOM to con someone else.

"You are basically wasting your time. Everything you share here, is already known and discussed on similar forums. Folks .. Quit whinning. Take action or stfu !!!"

We obviously haven't wasted our time since we have already won and the whole country knows about your incompetence and fraud now.

"p.s  :   Adios .. I am getting the F out of here ..( turns off light and avoids hitting door ) .  Bye suckers !!!"

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. I hear some toilet factories in India are hiring....


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United States James
June 7. 2012 10:09
James

@These people are waste

Looks like word is spreading like wildfire in EU too about how everything slumdogs touch dies.

Why do you think formerly BOOMING economies like USA, UK, Greece, Spain are ALL falling apart now? SLUMDOGS! Millions and millions of slumdogs ripping those countries off, collapsing all their economies and producing nothing! NRIs ship $50 BILLION out of US banks back to India every single year.

And we wonder why the western economies are in trouble? Asian thieves have broken in and robbed us blind.

You are correct in that Germany is one of the greatest engineering civilizations ever in history and has a standard of living that slumdogs can't even dream of reaching. Only way they can live that way is to INVADE AND TAKE OVER.

I can't wait to see what happens in Germany when they try to pull what they have done to the US.

All this crap in the news you hear about "Financial crisis started in America and spread to EU and the world". Well it may have "started" in America but it's the INDIOTS who caused it. They were SUPPOSED to keep the BOOMING US economy going but now look at it. Where are the "great economic benefits" India promised the USA in 1998? Where are they. Slumdogs siphoning USA's wealth and China's illegal trade surpluses are what has caused the "financial mess".

SO IF ANYTHING IT STARTED IN ASIA WHEN ASIANS BEGAN TO COVET AMERICANS' WEALTH, NOT IN USA!

I hope all Europeans will understand this.

We HAD no "crises" before Asian job robbers robbed America blind.


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United States uscitizen
June 7. 2012 10:10
uscitizen

@James,

Thanks for confirming my hypothesis. You just used APIs from a 3rd party, that is what I call grunt work. Anybody can do grunt work. And that is precisely the reason why you were replaced. Include the header file, statically or dynamically link in the Library and make calls after reading/figuring out the functions in the header....any idiot who has 1-2 years of programming experience can do that.

You obviously dont care about the fundamentals. Lets see..what is the meaning of Nyquist rate ? What is the difference between a DFT and FFT ? What is the difference between an NP hard and NP complete problem ? Whats a reason to use an FFT in audio processing applications ? How do you construct a Hamming window ?

Now go back and find a job to do API programming, coz thats all what you are capable of. You dont have the brains to create or innovate.

Ha ha..


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United States Tunnel Cat
June 7. 2012 12:11
Tunnel Cat

@ Asshole German

Hey dickhead are you blind ??? I said YOU ( Nazi piece of shit ) fit to work in Railways .. not your entire nation, What do you at Deutsche Bahn ?? fix toilet's and stuff ?? hell yeah .. I think that's what you do arschloch !!!! ( surprised ?)

I was in your racist fucking stinking nation for a short term ...and managed to pick up few slangs.

Now  gehen ficken  urself !!!!!!!



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United States purplehaze
June 7. 2012 12:40
purplehaze

@ These people are waste - Food for thought:

www.dailyfx.com/.../..._Industrial_Production.html

www.businessweek.com/.../german-industrial-output-declined-more-than-forecast-in-april

There's no doubt Germany is the strongest economy in Europe but (stooping down to your level of linguistic expertise) you must be the biggest fucking dickhead to think of a nation's economy as isolated and immune to a global economic slowdown.

P.S - Please invest some time learning sentence construction and how to spell words rather than just trying to be an imbecile argumentator!  


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United States purplehaze
June 7. 2012 12:53
purplehaze

@ James - I don't have much time tonight to engage in a wordy debate. But, I  will, in a day or two ;)

It seems like you did give it a try to go through my comment but you missed the key point - have a constructive argument.

What exactly have you done to fix the glitches with the visa policies apart from ranting in this blog and just spewing vile?

What benefit does it bring along apart from may be some feeling of complacence?

You can keep ranting all your life but without taking a constructive measure in the right direction (refer Slum_Doggie's points), you will be in the same mess as you are today!

- There are few more opinions in your comment that I'll refute. But, not now! Seriously clojure is way more fun lol


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Kuwait Anonymous
June 7. 2012 19:00
Anonymous

@James ,

I fully empathise with your anger.

Once Benjamin Spock , annoyed at seeing children messing up cement & construction material in his house  is reported to have clarified :-

" I like children in the abstract not in the concrete ".

Likewise I also become overwhelmingly fond of Indians while reading our Saints' Biographies & Upanishads. But  actually interacting with the contemporary Indians is unmitigated pain. As they are deceitful, greedy & dishonest.Exceptions prove the rule.

Recently I went to an Indian orthopaedist in Kuwait allegedly UK qualified speaking the same mother tongue. To consult about trigger finger.In the pretext of doing a thorough check up brushed aside trigger finger & instead exhorted me to go for bunion surgery in both my feet.Opened up his laptop, showing scary pictures & painting an alarming picture. His Indian nurse from Kerala botched up a simple procedure like drawing blood. That is another story.

It was what that Indian hiiighly qualified UK educated doctor blurted out that alerted me :-

" Unless I operate upon you , how will I make money?"

Thank God for Internet. There are many people ( not Indians ) cautioning against undergoing surgery for bunions.

Contrast that with an American Doctor Oz who says in his show:-

" I don't want people to end up in my operation theatre ".

My child was wantonly delivered by caesarian surgery by Indian gyneacologist as she stood to make a lot of money along with her team of anaethesiologist , assistants etc. It is not just the rich. The allegedly poor Indians are equally avaricious & merciless. The so called ayahs ( blue collar workers) working in the nursing home took away my sarees , undergarments, towels , hospital food intimidating me that my new born would suffer if I protested. There was no rooming in concept. The nurses would steal sanitary napkins right before my eyes.

No one was angry or outraged as this kind of thievery is ACCEPTED by all, I discovered. When I left the nursing home after a week , all of them had gathered extending their hands asking for baksheesh.

Indians talk big about Ramayanam & Bhagavad Geetha.

But fail deplorably in ethics.


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United States INDIAN_TATTI
June 8. 2012 00:43
INDIAN_TATTI

www.google.com/url

Good to hear that. But it does not mean that all Indians are good.



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United States INDIAN_TATTI
June 8. 2012 00:44
INDIAN_TATTI

zeenews.india.com/.../...n-math-puzzle_777792.html

Good to hear that. But it does not mean that all Indians are good.


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United States James
June 8. 2012 05:58
James

@uscitizen

@James,

"Thanks for confirming my hypothesis. You just used APIs from a 3rd party, that is what I call grunt work. Anybody can do grunt work."

Well, 99% of programming is done that way today. Reinventing the wheel isn't a smart way to develop. USA doesn't need any more "math geniuses" ranked second to last in the OECD student survey coming to the USA and telling us how to program. We were doing it before you were even born.

"And that is precisely the reason why you were replaced."

I wasn't replaced moron. I finished the project and moved on since the project was over.

Do you seriously think Sony is going to hire some slumdog from India to rewrite what their Japanese programmers have already included in the SDK in Japan? Do you think because you can write a DSP algorithm you are hot shit? You can get that stuff off the web for free. Besides, it's easy to write.

"Include the header file, statically or dynamically link in the Library and make calls after reading/figuring out the functions in the header....any idiot who has 1-2 years of programming experience can do that."

And write a Firewire driver (that works). Let's see you have a try at that one. I can assure you the audio development tools for Playstation are not trivial. It is a very complex application.

"You obviously dont care about the fundamentals."

Like I said, reinventing the wheel is the last thing you want to do in programming. What a waste of time.

"Lets see..what is the meaning of Nyquist rate ? What is the difference between a DFT and FFT ? What is the difference between an NP hard and NP complete problem ? Whats a reason to use an FFT in audio processing applications ? How do you construct a Hamming window ?"

Don't know but don't need it. And if I need it, I'll learn it. After all, that is what Indiots do - get the job then just look everything up. All the stuff you mentioned was invented in the west so don't act like you're a genius. If you think the only thing you need to write great software is math, you are delusional. There is much more to it than that. Good sofwtare is an art, not a science.

Please tell us which major apps you have written. And I'm still waiting for your email address so I can send you the screenshots.

"Now go back and find a job to do API programming, coz thats all what you are capable of. You dont have the brains to create or innovate."

The Sony job was API programming (as most programming jobs are).

I co-invented anti-spam software in 1997 long before you ever heard of a keyboard.

What have you ever invented?

For that matter please name one computer programming language or algorithm any Indians have ever created.

LOL. Faker.


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United States James
June 8. 2012 06:01
James

@Tunnel Cat

"Hey dickhead are you blind ??? I said YOU ( Nazi piece of shit )"

Look who is calling who a Nazi:

Hitler memorabilia 'attracts young Indians'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8660064.stm

Indian business students snap up copies of Mein Kampf
www.telegraph.co.uk/.../...pies-of-Mein-Kampf.html

Indians are the biggest Nazis on planet earth.

"fit to work in Railways .. not your entire nation, What do you at Deutsche Bahn ?? fix toilet's and stuff ?? hell yeah .. I think that's what you do arschloch !!!! ( surprised ?)"

The Dehli Metro was designed and built by a Japanese company (because Indians couldn't do it). Some great engineers, those Indians.

"I was in your racist fucking stinking nation for a short term ...and managed to pick up few slangs.
Now  gehen ficken  urself !!!!!!!"

And they probably threw you out because they couldn't stand the stink.

LOL. What a bunch of losers. The whole world laughs at India.


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United States James
June 8. 2012 06:14
James

@purplehaze

"There's no doubt Germany is the strongest economy in Europe but (stooping down to your level of linguistic expertise) you must be the biggest fucking dickhead to think of a nation's economy as isolated and immune to a global economic slowdown."

Only reason Germany is slowing down is 'cause USA is slowing down and the EU debt crisis. Only reason USA is slowing down is because there are tens of millions of faking slumdogs in the USA siphoning off our economy. When America sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold.

India is in deep doodoo too as its economy is headed for the crapper now that your visas are being restricted. Without access to the US job market, Indians have no "economy".

"P.S - Please invest some time learning sentence construction and how to spell words rather than just trying to be an imbecile argumentator!"

Look who's talking Mr. Hinglish. Why do all Indians omit "the" in every sentance.

LOL.


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United States James
June 8. 2012 06:19
James

purplehaze
June 7. 2012 12:53
@purplehaze

"What exactly have you done to fix the glitches with the visa policies apart from ranting in this blog and just spewing vile?"

And I already told you moron - we've chanegd US public opinion against India, that's what. That's all we CAN do since NASSCOM has bought off all our congresspeople and USINDPAC funnels billions to them. Public opinion is more effective than any political action could ever be (as we have already shown). And it's not a few "glitches" in the visa policies - it's rampant out of control abuse and invasion that we are against. I love how Indians try to downplay their crimes and call them "glitches".

"What benefit does it bring along apart from may be some feeling of complacence?"

Well we've got the visas restricted, lots of them aren't being renewed, slumdogs are being denied entry into the US, the visa fees have been increased, and no new immigration legislation has been passed, despite NASSCOM's best efforts. Oh - and we've turned public opnion against, India, Inc. Not bad for "ranting". And if you think it's just this blog, you are delusional. The insurgency is all over the web.

"You can keep ranting all your life but without taking a constructive measure in the right direction (refer Slum_Doggie's points), you will be in the same mess as you are today!"

Nope. We have already changed things. Indians are being laid off and sent packing and the slumdog bodyshops are being raided and people arrested. That is a lot more than we had 15 years ago when you people started this con.

"There are few more opinions in your comment that I'll refute. But, not now! Seriously clojure is way more fun lol"

Talk all you want. You can't change the fact that we have already won.


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United States James
June 8. 2012 06:21
James

Why do Indians think because they are good at math they are good at everything? They are horrible at creating anything, which is what all business is based on. Some slumdog solved a math problem? So what? And for every one like that there are 100,000 fakers. Sorry, your days of conning USA are over. Game over, the lies don't work anymore.


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Germany INDIAN Minister and Judge Sex Video
June 9. 2012 07:30
INDIAN Minister and Judge Sex Video

Following is the sex video of INDIAN minister who recently Boasted "India shining" campaign in World Economic Forum

This man is fucking Indian Supreme court Wanna be Judge

Any one who wants to rise into position in INDIA has to sleep with Upper echelon

In INDIA every Junior women will sleep with her seniors

Even In IT companies most Indian employees request their employers to sleep with their wives

Wife sharing is prominent among indian IT idiots

These are same people who preach Sexual morality and Worship of Family relations

While inside they practise incest and most degraded sexual acts

Just look at the sexual acts on every INDIAN temple

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjJaTGY308k



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Canada ezygoer
June 9. 2012 12:39
ezygoer

Now lets make a comparison .. Several greedy dishonest Indians (and some good ones too) and 1% of equally greedy dishonest Americans have made life miserable for the average American techie. That US 1% has also made millions of migrant Chinese workers happy by moving factories there. No wonder real unemployment rates are like 20% in the US. The space program has been cut so now can everyone become astronauts so that their jobs cannot be outsourced ?  


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Germany Indian Ministers Pimping each other
June 9. 2012 23:23
Indian Ministers Pimping each other

So called Indian ministers and business men tapes were released

Which includes Wife sharing and pimping in High business houses , including scamming media politics

Indians are full of filth and deceit

In this video Indian PR person is a Pimp and negotiates with business men and politicians

Americans dont understand INDIA

India is full of bastards

Kissinger was right--Indians are a bastard nation , a parasitic plague on this world

www.youtube.com/watch


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Germany Indian Ministers Pimping each other
June 9. 2012 23:42
Indian Ministers Pimping each other

My experience with Indians is negative

These people are scum among humans in every form

Now i am understanding why my American friends are very angry with these cockroaches

How can such filthy people ever exist on earth

We must use nukes to save the world from these filthy people


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Germany Indians are copycats
June 10. 2012 02:35
Indians are copycats

Look at the way of protesting these cockroaches cant even do protesting originally

Just copying what ever they see on TV

they worship APE Gods for a reason, they are APES

They are not original and they are parasites

www.rt.com/.../


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Germany Indians are obsessed with Faecal Matter
June 10. 2012 03:27
Indians are obsessed with Faecal Matter

Ever wondered why INDIA is a shit hole, because Hindus like Faecal matter

Yes , they are cockroach race and like every cockroach they loved their natural habitat that is Feeding on Faecal matter

Even Ghandi loved Faecal matter, look at this filthy parasite bastards who spread into USA

www.youtube.com/watch


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