It is not surprising that magic-underwear candidate Mitt Romney supports the importation of scabs to displace Americans.  After all, in his previous life, he was an evangelist for the outsourcing/offshoring regime at McKinsey and Bain Capital.

But now this dumb fuck Mormon is paying back his NASSCOM sponsors with some bullshit rhetoric about the US needing more slumdogs to put even more locals out of work.  It all just makes me want to go all "Taxi Driver" on his ass.


Romney sees tech skills shortage, and H-1B visa need

Experts rebut Romney's claim that 1.25 million high skill jobs are unfilled in U.S.

Patrick Thibodeau
 

September 7, 2011 (Computerworld)

WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney, a top candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, has released an economic plan that would make it easier for foreign college graduates with advanced degrees in math, science and engineering to work in the U.S.

Romney's plan, unveiled this week, includes a proposal "to raise the ceiling" on visas for holders of advanced degrees in math, science "who have job offers in those fields from U.S. companies."

"These workers would not displace unemployed Americans. Rather, they would fill high-skill job openings for which there is currently an acute shortage of labor," wrote Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, in his plan.

The U.S. caps H-1B visas at 85,000 a year. Current regulations set aside 20,000 of those visas for advanced degree graduates of U.S. universities.

Romney's proposal doesn't stipulate that advanced degree holders be graduates from U.S. universities.

Romney's plan also calls for "stapling" green cards to the diplomas of technical degree graduates of U.S. universities, a plan that has been proposed by lawmakers on both sides in Congress without success.

"Even in this tough unemployment climate, as of this past spring nearly 1.25 million high-skill jobs remained unfilled," said Romney, in the economic plan released Tuesday. "A skills gap of that magnitude suppresses the productivity of our businesses and slows the overall economy. Highly educated immigrants would help fill that gap and get our economy rolling again."

Ron Hira, a public policy professor at the Rochester Institute of Technology in New York, characterized as "dubious" Romney's claim that there is 1.25 million unfilled high-skilled positions.

"None of the official statistics support a claim that there's a shortage of these occupations," said Hira. "Unemployment rates for these occupations continue to be twice what they should be at full employment..."

- more

THERE WILL BE RETRIBUTION


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Canada Mark
September 8. 2011 13:26
Mark

Ridiculous!  Top grads don't even receive responses to their resumes for most of these so-called "job openings", and salaries are but a fraction of what they were pre-foreign guest worker invasion.  



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United States Indian_Tatti
September 8. 2011 14:38
Indian_Tatti

haha.. What a joke.

America going to gutter....

ANyone pls save America.....


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September 8. 2011 15:36
Taxidriver

"Taxi Driver?"  Interesting choice of words lol.  I'm assuming that you're talking about the movie with Robert DiNiro. I call myself TaxiDriver because for the last 8 and change years I have been supporting myself by driving a taxi. My 14 year software resume (theoretically worth 100k) has in reality become worthless.

I have sent out thousands of resumes, but haven't had a single interview in 8 years.  The same headhunters who rang my phone off the hook in 2001 wouldn't even take or return my calls in 2003. Now, most of those headhunters have gone out of business after a couple of decades in the industry. The one in 100 people who actually reply now say that they want more "recent" experience.

I never thought I would be in this business this long, but at least it pays the bills.

TD


http://www.helotry.org/http://www.helotry.org/


September 8. 2011 16:11
Taxidriver

"'These workers would not displace unemployed Americans. Rather, they would fill high-skill job openings for which there is currently an acute shortage of labor,' wrote Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, in his plan."

WTF???

So, these workers would not displace unemployed Americans because these jobs call for highly skilled work?  Just what is the implication of that, hmmm?

Mr. Romney isn't even up on the latest talking points. Apparently somebody forgot to tell him that they aren't saying "shortage" anymore (because that ploy lost all credibility in 2005), he's SUPPOSED to be saying that we need the "best and the brightest" in order to make "America more competitive."  He can't even keep his own agenda-speak up to date. The content managers at his web site didn't make the same mistake.  www.mittromney.com/.../fact-sheet-mitt-romneys-plan-turn-around-economy (scroll down to 'Human Capital Policy').

Maybe we could get an H-1b with "more up to date skills" to replace him at whatever he's doing right now. Oh, I forgot, he's rich. Funny how somebody who practically flunked out of Cranbrook managed to get into Stanford (for a year before dropping out). Being the son of a sitting Governor (George Romney) sure has its advantages.

This guy was born at the top of the social ladder. The guy's only private sector work was in high finance, never in real meat-and-potatoes production. To him, labor is just a commodity... the cheaper you can get it, the better, from a micro-economic point of view. He doesn't see the big picture, and he's a fucking snob.  

He's probably all in favor of the impending destruction of truck drivers too!

TD


http://www.helotry.org/http://www.helotry.org/


Canada ezygoer
September 8. 2011 23:03
ezygoer

If there were 1.23 M hi-tech "jobs" then salaries would be going through the roof for US workers but the reality seems otherwise or am I missing something here ?

Romney is running for election - so will say only what he perceives to bring votes so this statement is surprising given the current US unemployment scenario !!

But as Taxi Driver points out Romney could be bought out by Corporate America to run this story - though the steps to give green cards to techies is against quick profits in the third  world !!


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United States L. Trotsky
September 9. 2011 00:19
L. Trotsky

Sen. Mark Kirk (RINO-IL) was recently on WLS-AM "Don Wade" show talking about how we should stop aid to Pakistan and align US policy with  our enemy, India.

Kirk is apparently intent upon becoming India's man in the senate.


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United States James
September 9. 2011 20:32
James

Hey slumdogs, read this:

Americans voted coolest people in the world:

www.stuff.co.nz/.../Americans-voted-coolest-people


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United States uscitizen
September 10. 2011 16:39
uscitizen

Hey dimwit,

Its in America's best interest to keep these highly qualified Indians who come here and do their MS and PHds. These folks go on to create companies and jobs that would ultimately employ dumb fuck code monkeys like you.

Better suck you if you want a job instead of writing and spewing rhetoric.

Cheers,


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United States joshua
September 10. 2011 18:03
joshua


does anybody know what happenned to the programmer's guild?

it seems to be defunct

-joshua


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United States James
September 11. 2011 03:09
James

Uscitizen

Highly qualified? HAHAHA! You mean all the fakers who come here and cheat their way through school, then get into the jobs and BEG Americans to train them? And then collapse all the companies after they kick the Americans who created them out. Indians are masters at turning a booming US economy into the biggest recession in 70 years and are the cause of the global slowdown.

As for us "code monkeys", we ceeated IT and Silicon Valley long before you ever got here. Indians are all job beggars who have to go beg jobs off other countries or else face unemployment back home.

Can you actually NAME one of these companies Indians allegedly created and what they actually invented?

Arun Netravalli took over Bell Labs and now it's being turned into a shopping mall. Aluka Kamar took over Quark and almost drove it into the ground before he got his ass canned. Adobe and Microsoft are both being run into the ground.

Apple CLOSED their R&D in India in 2006. Oh wait.... apple is BOOMING.

Americans create, slumdogs take and destroy. You are the laughingstock of the USA.


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United States Anonymous
September 11. 2011 07:10
Anonymous

>>>Its in America's best interest to keep these highly qualified Indians who come here and do their MS and PHds. These folks go on to create companies and jobs>>>>

Comment posted above.

This is another myth propagated by Indians. That Indians alone have entreprenurial skills blahblah. I am sure Indians alone would believe in such self congratulatory reports.

Indian mainstream media has not reported the fact some of the Nano cars made by TATA imported by some Sri Lankan company have caught fire while being driven. As it happened within India including Gujarat recently.


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United States Drifter
September 11. 2011 11:14
Drifter

It's in America's best interest to educate and employ it's own. Indians can't come close to Americans and it's been proven.

Even if they were to start a business they wouldn't hire Americans anyways.


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United States L. Trotsky
September 11. 2011 12:52
L. Trotsky

blogs.computerworld.com/lets_end_the_h_1b_best_and_brightest_nonsense

"H-1B visa holders aren’t "the best and brightest." It's inside-the-beltway rhetoric that evaporates in two seconds of debate.

"The labor data, in terms of wages, occupations and companies that use the visa, clearly shows that the vast majority of H-1B holders aren’t building rockets.

And anyone who's actually dealt with these slumdog H-1Bs knows their accents require repeating their statements in order to ensure you understood exactly what they said.


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United States uscitizen
September 11. 2011 21:13
uscitizen

Hey James dumbfuck,

"BEG Americans to train them" ?? What are you smoking ???
Indians in USA have contributed above and beyond. Vinod Khosla, Vinod Dham, former CEO of US Airways, Sun Micro systems, Citibank, CISCO, all these global companies had input from Indians. Google and get your facts right before you spew some redneck grabage. Luckily, only a very small miority of Americans are racist fuckups like you. America is a land of immigrants. Your gradfather came here on a boat, we came here on a plane.

Let me give you some advice.
If you are in the programming biz, expect to be on the cutting edge, learn constantly.
Programming is an art, if you dont have a passion for it, find an another field. 5 years ago it was .net, today its Java, GWT, HTNL 5.0, web 2.0 and cloud computing.

Finally your point about Apple. Apple did start a Dev center and closed it. But did you know they still outsource a s$$$ load of things to INFY and Tata. This is a global economy. No one is interested in hearing your complains about the once cushy job you had and how you lost it now.

Btw, India was a closed economy until the 80s. State govenments could only buy from government run companies. When they opened the gates for global companies to compete companies like Enron competed and won bids to build infrastructure. This resulted in massive losses for indian companies. When Ford and GM decided to enter the Indian car market a few years ago, the local companies there suffered and people lost jobs. These days Ford and GM makes a killing there. They have manufacturing factories in Chennai, India.

So, instead of looking at the small picture..think global. This is the way its going to be. Accept it or F off.




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United States uscitizen
September 11. 2011 21:21
uscitizen

Hey Drifter Dumbfuck,

"It's in America's best interest to educate and employ it's own. Indians can't come close to Americans and it's been proven."

America is a huge melting pot. Who are Americans ??? Americans are the best and brightest from all over the world. This includes, whites, blacks, browns, chinese, indians, Europeans, ....


- A proud American


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September 12. 2011 00:02
tunnel rat

@uscitizen

Yeah, right, .NET is so done. BTW, Java is known as the new COBOL.  And WTF is HTNL 5.0?

Listen, mouth-breathing sister-fucker, Get the fuck off of my blog.  Go back to the break room where you congregate with the rest of the slumdogs and STFU.

And you are right -- USA is a nation of immigrants.  Just not the wrong ones.  We don't let misogynist, racist, feral creeps in.  That is why people like you are hated (besides the fact that you look like the 9-11 terrorists).  We don't like the way you drool over our women, call our locals "goras", and act like you don't come from some 3rd world shithole that still has the plague and stinks like cowshit and rotting human bodies.

Sorry, not impressed, fuck-face.  Now move along.


http://www.techinsurgent.com/http://www.techinsurgent.com/


United States uscitizen
September 12. 2011 03:19
uscitizen

hey Tunnel fucking rat,

Not one fucking word in that reply which makes sense. Go back into that tunnel and do what you do best (fuck yourself). I look at your fucking site with the sorry creepy looking joint smoking dude and I feel like laughing at your fucking face. Ohh by the way, are you related to the creep who bombed OK city ??

You have some nerves collecting UI and bad mouthing hard working Americans who pay into SS and UI insurance to support skill-less dumbfucks like you.

Java is the new COBOL ??? LMAO, this is precisely why MS weenies like you will remain where your are. Stay where you are and keep cribbing, coz then I can demand those high rates and stay elite. Dumb fuck nitwits like you should keep using XP, Vista and Winblows 7 and stay out of tech.

You are not a tech insurgent. You are a stupid old demented freckle faced moronic creep who lives in his mother's basement and committing incest and has no business doing/talking anything technical. So fuck off.

Buh Bye Moron Madachod!!!

ps: I wish Romney comes to power and cuts down UI benefits and reduce taxes. That is more money in my pockets and less freebees for you.


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United States uscitizen
September 12. 2011 03:29
uscitizen

This site built using asp.net LMAO. A legacy technology run on a sub par OS that crashes frequently. Hey tunnel, how many times do you reboot this site ?

tunnelfuck = dickless wannabe .net weenie

-A proud proud first generation American who refuses to succumb to racial insults and who kicks badass programmers like Tunnelfuck


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United States uscitizen
September 12. 2011 04:39
uscitizen

So, Tunnelfuck. What is your story ?

Your parents came to the country when you were 2. I am sure like any other first generation American, I am sure they must have been honest, patriotic hardworking people. So what went wrong ?

Does your nick imply you served during nam ? I find it hard to believe a US marine acting the way you are. Or, is it coz you like the GI Joe ?

What makes you feel you are "entitled" to a job just because you are a US citizen ? You are unamerican in your spirit and I dont see the can do attitude that is typical of Americans and which made this country great and what it is today.

I run a 20 person company that makes SAAS products for the cloud. We have a diverse culture, we work hard and play hard. My employees are highly paid and the best at what they do. If I hired stupid dumbfucks like you, my s/w would be full of bugs, my product will never be released on time and I will go out of business. So why the fuck would I hire someone like you ????? If likes of you ever apply for a job here, my engineers would tear you down to pieces, you wont even make it past our phone screen.

-A proud patriotic, successful first generation American who came to this country from a shit hole and made it big. Go USA!!!!


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 Anonymous
September 12. 2011 06:23
Anonymous

uscitizen indeed:-(

Enron would have delivered had not the nitpicky leftists of India found fault with them. Without American / Western help India will accomplish zilch. For many years waste water treatment was a big menace in Thiruppur (Tamil Nadu) where many small scale hosiery & textile industries are located. Indian courts decreed all of them to be shut down. Recently I read some of them have managed to import some German technology for effluent treatments which is extremely efficient & cost effective also.

Jingoistic Indians went ballistic like this alleged 'uscitizen' above when India's shoddy infrastructure was highlighted by foreign media during Commonwealth games. What do we see today after a bout of rains in India's capital city ? With everything unravelling what super infrastructure did we manage to build ??

Indians thrive on flattery and flattery alone.


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United States Drifter
September 12. 2011 09:32
Drifter

@uscitizen:

Rule #1. You do not disrespect the natives in the country which you are visiting. (i.e. dumbfuck) It upsets them. Hence:

You're not American, and never will be. Wake up in the morning and look in the mirror, and you'll still be indian. You don't belong here and aren't wanted here with your juvenile attitude.

The 'melting pot' argument is bullshit. Hey - the late 1800's called and they want their metaphor back. We're in the 21st century, just in case you need a refresher. The immigration rush is long over and completely and totally irrelevant now.

You wannabe's come over to our country with starry eyes imagining how many more gold rings you can fit on your brown fingers. You scheme how to stay after you are supposed to leave. You conspire to hire your own. Sit in a garage for 4 weeks in the slums with pirated software and you guys think you're qualified to come over here, call yourself 'highly skilled' and honestly earn an American salary? You make a mess of the business process and we're forced to take extra time to sit you in the corner with busy work to keep you all out of our hair while the real work is getting done. You can't ever admit you're wrong when you make mistakes and play shell games to avoid blame. You're a drag on the team.

Sure there are some bright ones out there, but you sure ain't one of them.

You have no bloody idea what a proud American is. You don't even know how many stars and stripes are on the American flag without going to count them and what they represent. Poseur.


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September 12. 2011 10:26
tunnel rat

Keep yapping, uscitizem.  How come all of you slumdogs think that anybody who has time to protest the ethnic cleansing and occupational apartheid committed by vile Indians is unemployed?  I have plenty of time to blog and run off to my job at a high-tech company, where I make sure none of your marble-mouthed, booger-farming, chair-warming retards gets a hook-up from a nepotistic Desi manager and sneaks his way on to my team.

One of these days a displaced American techie is going to go into that glorious workplace of yours and demand his fucking job back.  Comply, or he will blow the red dot right off of your head.  


http://www.techinsurgent.com/http://www.techinsurgent.com/


United States James
September 12. 2011 10:47
James

Let's just tear apart uscitizen's arguments here for a second, shall we?

"BEG Americans to train them" ?? What are you smoking ???

Nothing. We all know IQ81 Indiots step off the plane with their fake degrees they bought in Punjab and then ask Americans to train them. Otherwise they can't do the job. Just google it and see what comes up:

articles.sfgate.com/.../17299396_1_bofa-spokeswoman-jobs-train
www.usatoday.com/.../2004-04-06-replace_x.htm
ux.brookdalecc.edu/.../Outsourcing.htm
thejcrevelator2.hubpages.com/.../HowH1BVisaFRAUDiskillingAmerica
www.eweek.com/.../

And the list goes on and on and on. All of America knows your games. Jig is up slumdog.

"Indians in USA have contributed above and beyond."

Really can you name what they have contributed or are you just making it up? Let's go down your little list shall we?

Vinod Khosla - Sun was founded by Scott McNeally (CEO for 26 years), Bill Joy (wrote Solaris), and Andy Bechtolstein (designed the SPARC hardware). What Khosla did is anyone's guess. Sun was mostly Americans until the 1998-2001 invasion. Since then it has gone into the toilet and had to be sold off to Oracle in order to avoid the embarassement of closing its doors with slumdogs running the place. Thanks Khosla - for running a once-great American company into the ground.

Vinod Dham - Worked on a FIFTH generation x86 chip which was invented by 2 Americans. Standing on the shoulders of (American) giants. Big deal.

Former CEO of US Airways - Which almost went bankrupt.

Sun Micro systems - See above. The smouldering hulk of Sun was sold off to Oracle in a fire sale after Indiots gutted the place.

Citibank - Had to be bailed out by American taxpayers to stay in business.

CISCO - Just laid off 10,000 people - going down the drain.

"all these global companies had input from Indians." - Yes, that is exactly right - input from Indians that drove them all into the ground or robbed them blind. US never ever had these kinds of failures before you people got here.

Google and get your facts right before you spew some redneck grabage. "

I worked at Apple and Sony, and you didn't. I wrote the entire suite of audio development tools for PlayStation, you didn't. I don't think Apple & Sony hire "rednecks". But they don't hire YOU. LOL!

"Luckily, only a very small miority of Americans are racist fuckups like you."

Wrong again - 78% of Americans want less immigration.

"America is a land of immigrants." - No it isn't - 84% of us were born here. Before 1998 the number was 90%. And the immigrants that did come here in the past came from Europe, not the open-sewer called India where 600,000,000 subhumans shit in the open every single day. Where were you people for the past 500 years while we were building America? You didn't start coming in in large numbers until 1998. And it only took you 10 years to destroy the place. Good job immigrant. You're not quite up to American standards. Now go home and build a few toilets (if you can).

"Your gradfather came here on a boat, we came here on a plane."

Actually my great grandfather did. But he came here to stay and become American. And he started at the bottom and worked his way up. He didn't have some demonic gleam in his eye about working here for 6 years, keeping as many US citizens out of work as possible, and send all the $ back home where it would be waiting for him after he got done strip-mining the country. He didn't come here and step off the boat into someone else's $150K/yr job they worked 16 hours a day to earn. He didn't come here with a fake degree bought in Punjab and not knowing what a lightswitch or toilet was. He came here to work and become American. And not to practice the eithnic cleansing on exisiting US citizens like you slumdog armies do. Not quite the same is, it maderchod?

"Let me give you some advice. If you are in the programming biz, expect to be on the cutting edge, learn constantly."

Yeah like I need advice from some wannabe. I have been in the programming biz for 20 years. You haven't. Stop lecturing me kid. I have been progamming Apple platforms professionally for 20 years. Have you ever even seen an Apple II? I have my own company doing iOS apps. How many iOS apps have you written? Is that cutting edge enough for you? Can you tell me the difference between a category and a protocol in Objective-C? What class do nearly all Objective-C classes inherit from? What is the differenence between release and autorelease? name 3 major differences between traditional OOP languages and Objective-C. Name 3 unique characteristics of the Objective-C runtime. What OS does Cocoa derive from originally? Not keeping current? I don't think so. If I am out of work, it's not because I am not keeping current - it's because there's always some angry, jealous delusional Indiot on the other side of the hiring desk who has some centuries-old hangup about white people because of Britain's civilization attempt on India 200 years ago. So don't sit here and lecture me you worm.

"Programming is an art"

Yes, and I mastered it long ago - long before you every attempted it, if you ever did it at all. How many successful commercial software products have you written?

"if you dont have a passion for it, find an another field."

I do have a passion for it. If I didn't I wouldn't have done it 16 hours a day for 20 years. And I don't think I would have been able to write 20 products if I didn't have a passion for it. If I am out of work, it's because slumdogs like you want to keep me from working, not because I lack motivation.

"5 years ago it was .net, today its Java, GWT, HTNL 5.0, web 2.0 and cloud computing."

Java is DEAD you clown. Java is so 10-years ago. Today it's Objective-C and iOS. Web 2.0 is over. Cloud computing has yet to be proven. Objective-C is the hottest skill on the market right now. And I am already a master in it as well as C and C++. Rather it's jealous demented Indians like you that are my problem, not any lack of skills.

"Finally your point about Apple. Apple did start a Dev center and closed it. But did you know they still outsource a s$$$ load of things to INFY and Tata."

Really? Can you prove it? Can you provide some proof? Or are you just boasting like most Indiots?

"This is a global economy. No one is interested in hearing your complains about the once cushy job you had and how you lost it now."

If it's a global economy then were are the guest worker programs for a million US workers to take jobs in India every year? If it's global then why did India block Wal-Mart and Target from coming into India in order to PROTECT THE LOCAL INDIAN WORKFORCE. It seems the economy is only global in the west but not in Asia. In Japan they deport you for the mere reason that 1 of your parents is not Japanese. Global my ass. The US is being plundered by you people. There is no global economy.

As for my "cushy job" I worked 16 hours a day for 15 years to earn it. While I was doing that, you people in India were sitting around doing nothing. Yet now you get to walk off a plane and step into a "cushy job" an American created. There is no such thing as a "cushy job" in programming. It's hard hard work and only the best survive and earn the right to work in IT. Except for parasite Indians that is, who can only live by taking over what others create. You all get a FREE RIDE off others' work while the rest of the world has to actually produce something to remain employed.

"Btw, India was a closed economy until the 80s. State govenments could only buy from government run companies. When they opened the gates for global companies to compete companies like Enron competed and won bids to build infrastructure. This resulted in massive losses for indian companies. When Ford and GM decided to enter the Indian car market a few years ago, the local companies there suffered and people lost jobs. These days Ford and GM makes a killing there. They have manufacturing factories in Chennai, India."

Thanks for admitting globalization doesn't work. And India needs Ford and GM to go there and make cars because your cars burst into flame killing people. You need USA's manufacturing tech to teach you people how to make anything since India has no indigenous technology at all. Without us and our Amercian knowhow, you can't do jack. We even had to sell you the scrap steel from the WTC because Indian steel is known the world over for being brittle and unreliable. HAHA.

"So, instead of looking at the small picture..think global. This is the way its going to be. Accept it or F off."

No, it's not the way it's going to be. Already most countries are going protectionist again after they have suffered through the 10-year nightmare of letting IQ81 Indolts in to ruin their countries. Keep deluding yourself. Your days or raping the USA are over.

BTW, you left a few people off your little list there:

Sanjay Kumar - Former Computer Associates CEO now serving 12 years in Federal prison for accounting fraud.

Arun Netravalli - Took over Bell Labs where C and UNIX were invented - now it's being turned into a shopping mall.

Alukah Kamar - Became CEO of Quark and almost ran it into the ground before the board FIRED him.

LOLZ!


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United States James
September 12. 2011 10:58
James

Rat, it looks like you got uscitizen good and riled. You know when the slumdogs resort to wall-to-wall cursing and can't provide any proof you win. Statements like these:

"Not one fucking word in that reply which makes sense. Go back into that tunnel and do what you do best (fuck yourself)."

REALLY a VERY well-thought out, logical, rational response from one of these super-brilliant scientists USA can't do without. Where is his supporting evidence? None was provided. Just profanity everywhere. Does a scientist really talk like that? Does even an educated person talk like that? No, this is the mentality of a 7th grader, which is, after all the best slumdogs can do. No wonder the US is going down the tubes with people like this sitting in our office chairs.

You've got them cornered and they are scared the dam is going to burst any day and they will all be deported. This is what they live in fear of every single day. That is why they react so violently.

Which is why we need more insurgents and more blogs - to expose more of their crap so that our gov't will wake up.

The only reason he likes Romney is because he said in the debate that he wants to allow SEVEN POINT NINE MILLION MORE of these creeps from the 3rd world in here. You can bet Romney is whoring himself out to NASSCOM for millions and millions - and NASSCOM is happy to provide it so they can keep India's worthless unemployable losers in jobs here in America since at home they would all be facing perpetual unemployment forever.

Man, these Indiots are SO transparent you can see right through them like a pane of glass. No Windex needed!


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United States James
September 12. 2011 10:59
James

Hey uscitizen, here are the "contributions" Indiots have made to the US economy over the past 13 years:

Companies ruined or almost ruined by imported Indian labor

Adaptec - Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
Apple - R&D CLOSED in India in 2006.
Australia's National Australia Bank (Outsourced jobs to India in 2007, nationwide ATM and account failure in late 2010).
Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
Caymas - Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
Caterpillar misses earnings a mere 4 months after outsourcing to India, Inc.
Circuit City - Outsourced all IT to Indian-run IBM and went bankrupt shortly thereafter.
ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
Computer Associates - Former CEO Sanjay Kumar, an Indian national, sentenced to 12 years in federal prison for accounting fraud.
Deloitte - 2010 - this Indian-packed consulting company is being sued under RICO fraud charges by Marin Country, California for a failed solution.
Dell - call center (closed in India)
Delta call centers (closed in India)
Fannie Mae - Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty and sent to prison.
GM - Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
HP - Got out of the PC hardware business in 2011 and can't compete with Apple's tablets. HP was taken over by Indians and Chinese in 2001. So much for 'Asian' talent!
HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
Medicare - Defrauded by Indian national doctor Arun Sharma & wife in the U.S.
Microsoft - Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it's lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
MyNines - A startup founded and run by Indian national Apar Kothari went belly up after throwing millions of America's VC $ down the drain.
PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
PepsiCo - Slides from #1 to #3 during Indian CEO Indra Nooyi' watch.
Polycom - Former senior executive Sunil Bhalla charged with insider trading.
Qantas - See AirBus above
Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010, cost Rolls $500m).
SAP - Same as Deloitte above in 2010.
Singapore airlines (IT functions taken over in 2009 by TCS, website trashed in August, 2011)
Skype (Madhu Yarlagadda fired)
State of Indiana $867 million FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
State of Texas failed IBM project.
Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, had to be sold off to Oracle).
UK's NHS outsourced numerous jobs including health records to India in mid-2000 resulting in $26 billion over budget.
Union Bank of California - Cancelled Finacle project run by India's InfoSys in 2011.
United - call center (closed in India)
Victorian Order of Nurses, Canada (Payroll system screwed up by SAP/IBM in mid-2011)
Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).

I could post the whole list here but I don't want to crash any servers.


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United States James
September 12. 2011 11:03
James

uscitizen's IQ i so low that he doesn't even realize "first generation American" means someone born here, not some open-defecator who just stepped off the plane from the smelly Curry Containment Field who needs to be taught what a lightswitch is and how it works.

For someone who is so "highly skilled" and brilliant, you would think they would know what basic English is. And no American says "Proud American". Sounds too much like "Proud Indian" which only slumdogs would say. Another rabid, salivating, wild-eyed, money-crazed unemployable job beggar from India lusting after American jobs and American women since he can get neither in his homeland. LOL.

is that you Anil? It sure sounds like you. Sorry for getting you fired from Adobe but you should have been smart enough to know that suing your current employer is career suicide in America. This ain't India where you can just throw acid.


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United States James
September 12. 2011 11:06
James

"What makes you feel you are "entitled" to a job just because you are a US citizen ?"

The answer is quite simple: Ttile 8, Section 1182 - INADMISSIBLE ALIENS. In particular, read the last line which says ALL foriegn workers are inadmissible to the US if Americans are out of work. That means you uscitizen - you got here in under false pretenses, and you were never supposed to work here or stay once the recession began (which you caused). As for entitlement, millions of Americans worked 16 hours a day for decades to EARN those jobs. EARNING something is not entitlement - we earned those jobs and built IT long before you ever got here. It is you who have an entitlement mentality. You are not entitled to jobs other people EARNED just because you WANT to come here and take them. Now GO HOME INADMISSIBLE ALIEN.

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part II > § 1182
§ 1182.

Inadmissible aliens



(a) Classes of aliens ineligible for visas or admission
Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, aliens who are inadmissible under the following paragraphs are ineligible to receive visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States: 

...

(D) Immigrant membership in totalitarian party
(i) In general Any immigrant who is or has been a member of or affiliated with the Communist or any other totalitarian party (or subdivision or affiliate thereof), domestic or foreign, is inadmissible. 

...

(5) Labor certification and qualifications for certain immigrants
Innocent Labor certification
(i) In general Any alien who seeks to enter the United States for the purpose of performing skilled or unskilled labor is inadmissible, unless the Secretary of Labor has determined and certified to the Secretary of State and the Attorney General that—
(I) there are not sufficient workers who are able, willing, qualified (or equally qualified in the case of an alien described in clause (ii)) and available at the time of application for a visa and admission to the United States and at the place where the alien is to perform such skilled or unskilled labor, and
(II) *** the employment of such alien will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of workers in the United States similarly employed. ***


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United States James
September 12. 2011 11:10
James

"I run a 20 person company that makes SAAS products for the cloud. We have a diverse culture, we work hard and play hard. My employees are highly paid and the best at what they do. If I hired stupid dumbfucks like you, my s/w would be full of bugs, my product will never be released on time and I will go out of business. So why the fuck would I hire someone like you ????? If likes of you ever apply for a job here, my engineers would tear you down to pieces, you wont even make it past our phone screen.

-A proud patriotic, successful first generation American who came to this country from a shit hole and made it big. Go USA!!!! "

You didn't start jack, you don't own a company, you don't do anything.

In all liklihood you work for InfoSys or Wipro, get protected by your Indian manager who keeps you in your job een though you are incompetent, you clean out the client company with your fake resumes and failures, until they collapse, then you move onto the next con. All the while your slumdog manager making sure you are protected in your job and never get fired so you can collect an American paycheck with American $ so you can send it home as fast as possible before you get found out to be the fraud you are.

Next you will be saying you invented USB or hotmail. You are just another faking Indiot con who couldn't start a biz if your life depended on it. The only way you can live is to live like a parasite off the USA since at home you would face enternal unemployment. The whole country is onto India Inc's massive scam as the InfoSys case has shown.

Word on the street is indictments are about to be handed down on Infy. Let's see who is laughing when we put all your asses in prison for the crimes you have been commiting against the American people for over a decade.


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United States James
September 12. 2011 11:13
James

Enron has employed large numbers of Indians before going under. They had to cook the books to try to compensate for the massive loss. CountryWide which had to be bailed out also sent huge amount of loan app work to India. Guess what really caused the housing crisis and all those bad loans? Indiots!

And how can any country which has these problems be expected to help the US:

www.bloomberg.com/.../news

As we are witnessing, importing millions of 3rd worlders like uscitizens it slowly turning the US into India!

Soon the whole world will be one big smelly toilet unless we stuff all these subhumans back into the Curry Containment Field and keep them there!


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U.A.E. axe
September 12. 2011 13:57
axe

My brother's company hired a slumdog, fired him 3 months later.  His resume was a total fabrication copied word for word from the internet.  the slumdog took them for a ride until other non-indian programmers figured him out.

BIG WASTE OF TIME, MONEY, 3 MONTHS SALARY for a small company trying to do well.  nice one.


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United States Drifter
September 12. 2011 14:20
Drifter

You're not American. Who are you trying to convince? Lashing out with your grammar school insults reveals the gaping hole in your self-esteem and inadequacy.

You follow with self-inspired statements to suggest your knowledge and acceptance:

'You are unamerican in your spirit and I dont see the can do attitude that is typical of Americans and which made this country great and what it is today.'

'A proud patriotic, successful first generation American..'

Now. I, and probably everyone else here, would like to know what would license you to be any degree of authority in what may or may not make an American? Especially following your posts that show clear contempt?

Have you enlisted for the Marines yet? Given something back to this country that WE, Americans, aren't entitled to be employed in? But YOU are? Why don't you go find a Marine and tell them to their face they are unamerican in spirit. I wanna watch.

Why would you stay somewhere when you are clearly not wanted? What an existance.

Keep it up though - you and your type are NASSCOM's single largest nightmare. The uphill battle for acceptance in this country and you're doing a fine job displaying what they are working so hard to disguise. Works for us!


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United States Bobby Jindal
September 12. 2011 15:34
Bobby Jindal

Jindal endorsing Perry!!

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/.../


Looks like Bobby either likes exploding Indian population in TX or just wants to get as much as tea party votes for himself in 2016.


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United States uscitizen
September 12. 2011 18:56
uscitizen

hey drifter fucker,

Are you stupid or retarded ?? Coz what you are spouting makes not one iota of fucking sense.

USA is a land of immigrants, was, is and will always be. There will always be redneck Nazi fucks like you, but that does not matter coz fucks like you are non mainstream. Go stay there in your mom's trailer and smoke some pot (if you can afford it). I believe your UI has run out, maybe you can learn to flip some fucking burgers.

Bu bye fuckface,


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United States uscitizen
September 12. 2011 19:03
uscitizen

hey tunnel fuck,

You didnt answer my question(s).

"One of these days a displaced American techie is going to go into that glorious workplace of yours and demand his fucking job back.  Comply, or he will blow the red dot right off of your head."

Ahh and no, your redneck developer like James wont even be able to get into our complex let alone our building. Before you know you will have a dozen cops kicking your lame ass.

Btw, you should consider using Open source software, its the future.
Why pay MS for the fucking legacy OS, the lame ass SQL server/Express when you can get Linux and Postgres/MySQL for free ???

Bu Bye MS .net weenie fuckface,


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United States uscitizen
September 12. 2011 20:05
uscitizen

James,

Ahh here is an old fart who thinks he is a modern day programmer.
I am going to debunk and show you how worthless you are.

Lets look at what you said about yourself.
"Yeah like I need advice from some wannabe. I have been in the programming biz for 20 years. You haven't. Stop lecturing me kid. I have been progamming Apple platforms professionally for 20 years...bla bla...some ios ...cocoa bla...some more objective C bla....some questions copied from google search"

Now...why the fuck are you doing hardcore low level coding when you should be architecting solutions and master some vertical like finance, or engineering ? Coz you dont have the fucking skills for that. I have 15 years of professional experience, a PHd and double MS from an Ivy league school in the US and I own a software company and employ 20 people including 8 engineers. Our product is one of the best in the domain we are in, and we are very profitable.

Now let me tell me why I wont hire stupid fucks like you. After 15 years all you are able to ask me is some basic objective C crap, a fucktard language that runs on proprietary fuckware. I hate fucking dimwits like you who play right into the hands of big corporations who makes all kinds of ridiculous rules and restrictions on what can be developed and how it will be used (hint Apple). I hate fucking Apple, I hate fucking Winblows. In my 15 years I have built Neural network applications for speech recognition, written GUI for medical devices, CAD applications in QT C++, financial applications on BEA Tuxedo (C++), Websphere, JBoss ESB, developed a FIX server from the ground up, wrote backends for SWIFT. I doubt you even know even one of the above things I mentioned. My engineers are equally qualified...Let me give you an example...being a 100% OSS shop, we use GIT for source code management. A few weeks ago one of my engineers was noticing huge delays in doing a GIT push, the dude looked through the code figured out what was going on, fixed the fucking bug, pushed his change out and continued working...A few months ago, the junior dev I hired wasnt happy with the GIT GUI tools out there. He spent a saturday writing his GIT GUI in QT. This is the kind of people that I hire. You not qualified to even lick their butt holes. Now go write some hello world app in Objective C and dont bother me with your stupid language questions.

OK..now for my most fav part..=)
"Java is DEAD you clown. Java is so 10-years ago. Today it's Objective-C and iOS. Web 2.0 is over. Cloud computing has yet to be proven. Objective-C is the hottest skill on the market right now. And I am already a master in it as well as C and C++. Rather it's jealous demented Indians like you that are my problem, not any lack of skills."

LMAO....Java is 14 years old, C++ much more than that. I have news for your fuckface, they are the language of choice for every company on wall street. Try telling a FIX developer to use VB or cocoa, he will laugh at your fucking face. Web 2.0 and cloud is the future. Have you seen the Quake remake done using WebGL that runs on Chrome ??? Kicks ass !!!! Objective C and Actionscript (which is already getting obsolete) will be gone when every browser begins supporting HTML 5.0. Backends cannot be done using yor stupid Objective C, but it can be done with Java. Infact its the laguage of choice for the enterprise. You wont get a job if you dont know things like Spring , EJB 3.0 and JPA.

Do you want to see first generation Indian Americans kicking some a$$ watch this...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/11946895

That is Sundaram Pitchai product manager for Google.

and here is another from the Google dev conference, the guy talking about Guice a DI framework comparable to Spring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBVJbzAagfs

Now, fuck off.


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India H1b_King
September 12. 2011 21:12
H1b_King

Of course he support H1b, we paid the bribe. Tunnel Rat has hard time understanding US economy workings.  H1b_king understands all! We win again. As usual Smile


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United States uscitizen
September 12. 2011 21:51
uscitizen

haha LOL James fuckface!!!

Keep dreaming...ioS weenie, dumbfuck cocoa developer who writes hello world over and over again. James fuckface, being a US citizen does not entitle you to a job. You have to earn it. You have to prove yourself show what you are worth. Now go flip some burgers coz you already proved you cant do shit.

- A proud first generation american.


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United States uscitizen
September 12. 2011 21:53
uscitizen

drifter,

You have no business participating in this debate coz you are not a techie.
If you have the balls, enagage me in a tech duel.

Cheers.


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United States Drifter
September 12. 2011 22:38
Drifter

'I have 15 years of professional experience, a PHd and double MS from an Ivy league school in the US and I own a software company and employ 20 people including 8 engineers. Our product is one of the best in the domain we are in, and we are very....'

Jesus, Joseph and Mary, please - give us all a break from your storytime BS. If there was any validity to your silliness, you'd be spouting the name of the company and the application(s). But there aren't any. Further, if you had any degree of intellect that you CLAIM to have, you sure wouldn't be HERE, trying to convince us 'rednecks' otherwise, because you've made it. No reason to pay attention to the the rest of the world and try to alter perception. What's the incentive? Face it, you're a charlatan. More empty claims, par for the course. You guys have produced NOTHING. Otherwise you'd have your own IT industry back home instead of a (failing) business model based on temp workers. There is no indian OS. No indian office suite. No graphics package, word processor app or even printer drivers! Do you clowns even make mousepads? How about freebie dust brushes for screens? With the sticky-tape velcro attachments? Low cost, low quality, hired temp help. Period. You can't escape it.

South asians are short on time here. Better to pack up and get out before you're excused by force. It's coming...


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Canada ezygoer
September 12. 2011 23:15
ezygoer

Interesting discussion and flame wars .. maybe us citizen should name a recent world class Indian product that will impress us here in N.America !!

Indians came from a third world environment as they were let in as a source of cheap labor and in labor arbitrage games by Corporate America. Some did get an education here just like folks of any other country and could've contributed a bit. But nothing really impressive in the long run - India is just a place where Corporate America can get large numbers of software "grunts" on the cheap along with a few good ones and so can Infosys or TCS etc etc !! Another defunct one called Satyam tells the real story of this racket !!  


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United States James
September 12. 2011 23:18
James

uscitizen:

From 1492-1998 US was a land of European immigrants. With European ideals and civilzation. In all those centuries, Indians didn't contribute to America, didn't do anything to build America. You didn't start coming here until late 1998 - AFTER Americans made the place boom. Then seeing how crappy your country was, you decided you wanted to TAKE what others BUILT. Americans and their European ancestors built America, Indians didn't. That is why Asians have no claim to America, nor any place here. America is not land of immigrants. It was created and built by European immigrants and Americans born here.

Your veiled attempt at a takeover of America is not working. Why?

Because.... you can't produce anything. Everywhere you goes collapses. You can't run a country with a bunch of takers who can't produce. The USA is finding this out. That is why you will never make it here. Ever. You can try for a while, but you won't last because you can't produce. All you can think of is robbing others for a living and pretending to be smart. That is how India, Inc. fraud operates.

Now go home and build some toilets. America is not a land of immigrants. 84% of the current US population was born here. And until 13 years ago, we had the place booming. Until you came here and started your mafia operations and lies and theft.

I can guarantee you with the unemployment Indians have caused, H-1B will not be raised again. Keep dreaming, your days of robbing America are over.

Parasites always need a host to suck blood from, but Indians want more than that - they WANT to see white Americans poor, just because Indiots believe Brits robbed them 200 years ago. It is not enough for them to succeed, they have to damage others' success lest they look 2nd best next to them. You will never be American, you can't do what Americans do, all you can do is rob.

Stop deluding yourselves and go home and face your own hellhole country like a man insted of deluding yourself into thinking you are American when you aren't and never will be.


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United States James
September 12. 2011 23:25
James

uscitizen,

"Ahh and no, your redneck developer like James wont even be able to get into our complex let alone our building. Before you know you will have a dozen cops kicking your lame ass."

This "redneck developer" worked at Apple and Sony, and you didn't lol. This redneck developer wrote 20 commercial software products and you didn't. Trying to characterize all Americans as rednecks is futile. Apple CLOSED its R&D in India in 2006 and still hires mostly Americans. Oh wait.... Apple is BOOMING. What have you ever actually produced? Nothing!

"Btw, you should consider using Open source software, its the future."

We've been hearing open source for 15 years. Hasn't happened yet. There's no value In FREE. Can you charge for air? Nope, you can't. Anyone who think free is a business model is delusional. Besides, your friend Mr. Bill Gates said "Open source is tantamount to communism". We know Indiots need open source since they are unable to write their own code - they need to find code other people wrote so they can actually claim to be programmers. Linux has 7% market share after 15 years. Yeah, keep believing in open source crap. No one wants junk.

"Why pay MS for the fucking legacy OS, the lame ass SQL server/Express when you can get Linux and Postgres/MySQL for free ???"

No one uses MS stuff because Apple is eating everyone's lunch. Apple is proprietary and closed by the way. LOL. Oh and Apple CLOSED their R&D center in India in 2006:

articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../27799950_1_apple-spokesperson-apple-officials-gala-induction-ceremony

Guess slumdogs are unable to produce something like Apple makes. Apple is taking over the world. Linux and MS are old dying dinosaurs. Too bad Apple won't lay off all its American developers and hire all slumdogs. Apple is one company you people can't have. Too bad for you! Enjoy your Linux no one wants.

Delusional Indiots wishing they were relevant but hiding in obsucrity in jobs created by Americans. What a laughingstock!


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United States James
September 13. 2011 00:08
James

"Ahh here is an old fart who thinks he is a modern day programmer.
I am going to debunk and show you how worthless you are."

This old fart programmer has written 20 commerical Mac products and 11 iOS apps. Have you? I will run circles around any wannabe Indiot any day.

"Lets look at what you said about yourself.
"Yeah like I need advice from some wannabe. I have been in the programming biz for 20 years. You haven't. Stop lecturing me kid. I have been progamming Apple platforms professionally for 20 years...bla bla...some ios ...cocoa bla...some more objective C bla....some questions copied from google search"

"Now...why the fuck are you doing hardcore low level coding when you should be architecting solutions and master some vertical like finance, or engineering?"

Because I am extremely good at it and enjoy it. I do what I enjoy, not just what makes me $. Don't assume all Americans are money-grubing hatchet men like yourself.

"Coz you dont have the fucking skills for that."

I have a degree in Business Administration but spent 20 years programming professionally anyway. I have my own business. I do all the code, I do all the marketing, I do all the accounting. I do it all. Why do you assume I haven't mastered other subjects? You are delusional and illogical.

"I have 15 years of professional experience, a PHd and double MS from an Ivy league school in the US and I own a software company and employ 20 people including 8 engineers. Our product is one of the best in the domain we are in, and we are very profitable."

Prove it. Show us what you have done. I doubt you have any real degrees at all PhDs don't run around saying "fucking" all the time. Swearing is a sign of a lack of intelligence.

"Now let me tell me why I wont hire stupid fucks like you."

Because we are white, and you are Indiot and you are sooooo jealous of white Americans. You can't compete next to us so your only recourse is to exclude us and then fake it. If you worked alongside us, we would expose your fraud and do such a better job than you, you would get fired. That's why you don't hire Americans (and thanks for admitting here when the gov't can see it LOL). You're not too smart, are you?

"After 15 years all you are able to ask me is some basic objective C crap, a fucktard language that runs on proprietary fuckware."

Objective-C is the future. Perhaps you'd better read this:

www.tuaw.com/.../

The core of all modern OSes is written in C. Most drivers are. Every TCP/IP stack is. Next you will be saying it's a good idea to write games in Java. LOL.

If you need more questions please answer:

- What register on the PowerPC chip are function results returned in?

- What langauge was the Mac Toolbox originally written in?

- What is the difference between cost account and accural accounting?

- Which is better for long-term assets, amortized expense, or monthly expense?

- What 5 things should every C++ class have?

- What are the major differences between PowerPC and x86 architectures?

- What is the standard cycle restart time on a Firewire bus?

- What advanatges does Firewire have over USB?

- What are the 5 main things every marketer should do when launching any new product?

Care to answer? (If you can).

"I hate fucking dimwits like you who play right into the hands of big corporations who makes all kinds of ridiculous rules and restrictions on what can be developed and how it will be used (hint Apple)."

Kind of hard to argue with the most valable tech company in the world and their success. You just hate Apple because they still hire mostly Americans and won't hire Indiots (because they know it would be the kiss of death). You hate something that is American, is better than you, and that you can't be a part of. Since India is unable to produce its own Apple, and it can't take it over, you hate it. Too bad for you because Apple is leaving you in the dust. Another 5-10 years there won't be any computing tech except Apple. You see your little crap web skills going out of demand and you are TOO STOOPID to learn C-based languages and make the software work so you are angry and jealous. Get used to it because Apple is taking over the world. Too bad for you!

Sony btw puts the same restrictions on PlayStation development - you have to be approved as a developer by them before you can develop for the platform. Next you will be saying Sony is no good. You are banging your head against a brick wall. Can't argue with success, script kiddie. This is the new model, get used to it. People have realized "open" doesn't generate any revenue. No one believes in that crap model anymore. Keep clinging to it and watch as you slide into total irrelevance. HA!

"I hate fucking Apple, I hate fucking Winblows."

Go ahead. Apple is leaving you in the dust. Too bad for you. Can't fight reality. Someone with a PhD should realize that.

"In my 15 years I have built Neural network applications for speech recognition, written GUI for medical devices, CAD applications in QT C++,"

QT sucks. It's slow and buggy. No one uses that crap.

"financial applications on BEA Tuxedo (C++), Websphere, JBoss ESB, developed a FIX server from the ground up, wrote backends for SWIFT."

I doubt you have done any of those things. Prove it. Besides, commodity web developers are a dime a dozen. Any moron can read a manual and build a server. Let's see you CREATE. Programming like iOS programming is creative programming, something you can't do. Creativity can't be shoehorned into logic. Take your maths and science skills and go somewhere else. The future has no need for you.

"I doubt you even know even one of the above things I mentioned. My engineers are equally qualified..."

Doesn't matter how qualified they are. They are still inadmissible aliens under US law. You're not in favor of breaking the law are you? Maybe we should alert the DHS to your activities. TR, do you have this guy's IP address and location? Time to file a DHS/ICE complaint and have their offices raided for immigration violations.

"Let me give you an example...being a 100% OSS shop, we use GIT for source code management."

Everyone uses git. So what?

"A few weeks ago one of my engineers was noticing huge delays in doing a GIT push, the dude looked through the code figured out what was going on, fixed the fucking bug, pushed his change out and continued working...A few months ago, the junior dev I hired wasnt happy with the GIT GUI tools out there. He spent a saturday writing his GIT GUI in QT. This is the kind of people that I hire. You not qualified to even lick their butt holes. Now go write some hello world app in Objective C and dont bother me with your stupid language questions."

Ah ha! So we see you can't answer the questions. Why are you in this country if you don't have cutting edge skills. Adapt or be deported. As for why someone would waste an entire day rewriting something someone else has already done, is a joke. Ever hear of reinventing the wheel? Not a good way to run a biz. No wonder so many US companies are dropping like flies with you people running them. No smart worker or bizman would waste so much time redoing something someone else has done. There are plenty of great Git tools out there already. I don't know anyone who rewrites them. Your workers should be spending time working on your products, not rewritting freely-available existing tools. What a bunch of morons! Is this all you can do with your Indian brilliance and all those PhDs. LOL!

And that's "Objective-C" not "Objective C". Learn some IT moron.

People with PhDs don't go around spewing profanity every other sentence as you do. I doubt you have any degree at all, let alone any business. You are probably an Infy or Wipro conman who is very insecure about being found out and deported. What a joke! Did you do your thesis in Toilet Design? I hear India is in desperate need of that skill. Why not go home and start a toilet company!

OK..now for my most fav part..=)
"Java is DEAD you clown. Java is so 10-years ago. Today it's Objective-C and iOS. Web 2.0 is over. Cloud computing has yet to be proven. Objective-C is the hottest skill on the market right now. And I am already a master in it as well as C and C++. Rather it's jealous demented Indians like you that are my problem, not any lack of skills."

"LMAO....Java is 14 years old, C++ much more than that."

LOL. C++ is not much older than Java. Around 1992-1994 for both. Perhaps you better read this:

inventors.about.com/.../James_Gosling.htm

You don't even know the history of of the IT industry! How long have you been working in IT, if at all? besides, C-based languages are critical since so much of UNIX core is written in them. The world could easily do without Java and still function. If C goes away so do most drivers and all TCP/IP stacks. How long do you think the net would be functioning without those?

"and  I have news for your fuckface, they are the language of choice for every company on wall street. Try telling a FIX developer to use VB or cocoa, he will laugh at your fucking face."

Who cares about Wall St? A bunch of bankers and robbers? Were you one of the workers who cleaned out Lehman and caused its collapse? Or did you work at CountryWide and approve loans that shouldn't have been. Indiots went to Silicon valley and it collapsed, then Detroit and it collapsed, then Wall St. and it collapsed. I would brag about it if I were you.

"Web 2.0 and cloud is the future. Have you seen the Quake remake done using WebGL that runs on Chrome ???"

WebGL just sits on top of C-BASED OPEN GL RUNNING ON THE GRAPHICS CARD. From Wikipedia:

"WebGL (Web-based Graphics Library) is a software library that extends the capability of the JavaScript programming language to allow it to generate interactive 3D graphics within any compatible web browser. WebGL code executes on a computer display card's Graphics Processing Unit (GPU).

WebGL is based on OpenGL ES 2.0 and provides an API for 3D graphics."

So once again we see that the world can do without web standards, but not without C. Too bad you don't even know that OpenGL is a C-based language. Is this the great Indian IT knowledge we keep hearing about? LOL. Besides, that web crap will be non-performant on mobile devices. Maybe you can go work at Adobe and make Flash run fast enough to work on an iPhone. LOL.

"Objective C and Actionscript (which is already getting obsolete) will be gone when every browser begins supporting HTML 5.0."

Keep dreaming. Every native app on iOS devices and Macs use Objective-C. ActionScript has no relation to Obj-C since it is an Adobe Flash-based language. The two are totally separate. Objective-C has been around since 1989 and isn't going away. It's been around since before the net and will be here long after all your web script kiddie crap goes away or changes next month. BILLIONS of app downloads are built with Objective-C. If you think that's going away any time soon, you are delusional. C-based languages are here to stay because C was the language used to write UNIX, which powers most of the web servers in the world today as well as all iOS and Mac devices. Keep dreaming. C is not going away and since Objective-C is a superset of ANSI C, it's not going away either.

"Backends cannot be done using yor stupid Objective C, but it can be done with Java. Infact its the laguage of choice for the enterprise. You wont get a job if you dont know things like Spring , EJB 3.0 and JPA."

Java is for servers. Who cares. On the desktop Java is a massive failure and everyone knows it. If you're a desktop or mobile developer, Java is irrelevant. Why do you assume all programming is server-side and not client-side? There are 100 million iPhones in the world and soon there will be 100 million iPads. Keep dreaming. Objective-C is here to stay. You're just pissed that you can't code in a language that requires memory management or that is controlled by a company that still hires American devs and IS BOOMING.

HAHA! The superiority of American programmers shows itself once again - Apple is BOOMING out of control without slumdog labor and YOU CAN'T STAND IT. HAHAHAHA!!!!! Get used to it - Apple is only going to get bigger in the future! Your career path is headed right down into the toilet and SO IS YOUR PRESTIGE.

Do you want to see first generation Indian Americans kicking some a$$ watch this...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/11946895

That is Sundaram Pitchai product manager for Google.

Chrome OS? What kind of moron thought up that idea? A browser based OS? You can't write device drivers in JavaScript. No one wants to pay hundreds of $ for a device that can only do one thing. By all accounts, Chrome is already a massive failure. No one is going to waste their $ on a laptop that can only do one thing. HAHA. One more idiot Indian idea that never went anywhere. Maybe you will be saying the JooJooPad is going to take over the world next.

I don't doubt there are tons of slumdogs in most tech companies. But what they are producing, if anything is questionable at best. Apple just zoomed past Google with its PROPRIETARY stuff to become the world's most valuable tech company. Face it, Indiots SUCK at IT. You occupy office chairs, but you never produce anything real anyone wants. Then the companies all go under with you running them. Sun, now MS, Bell Labs, Quark, Adobe... all going down soon to the American-run Apple juggernaut that you cannot be a part of and cannot stop.

HAHAHAHA!!!! Thanks for proving to us Indians are ALL FAILURES AT IT!

and here is another from the Google dev conference, the guy talking about Guice a DI framework comparable to Spring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBVJbzAagfs

No one cares, developers are flocking to Objective-C in droves. No one wants one-off technology-of-the month that will be forgotten by the end of the year or changed just so some slumdogs can feel like they are inventing something new.

Give it up, India sucks, you suck, and you can't keep the US economy going. I recommend investing in some new Toilet technologies in India.


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United States James
September 13. 2011 00:15
James

uscitizen,

Here is another great example of all the FAILURES delusional Indiots produce:

Google's Chrome Smartbooks Have Already Lost to Apple's MacBook Air

www.pcworld.com/.../..._to_apples_macbook_air.html

Google says it will release a Google-branded Chrome OS smartbook in November to be followed a month later by Chrome OS netbooks from Hewlett-Packard and Acer. The Google-branded netbook would not be sold through stores, but through an online store similar to Google's failed experiment with its Nexus One smartphone, according to Digitimes.

...

Beyond the price tag, Apple's MacBook Air devices will have several features in its favor compared to forthcoming Chrome OS netbooks. For one thing, the Air has a complete desktop operating system instead of just a fancy Web browser like Chrome OS."

WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE THOSE SLUMDOGS AT GOOGLE THINKING? A SINGLE USE DEVICE?  A FANCY WBE BROWSER MASQUEARING AS AN OS? YEAH, REAL SMART! Go learn some C and write a real OS if you can, otherwise shut up. Which brings up another question? Why havne't all those BRILLIANT computer scientists in India come up with their own commerical OS yet? Answer: THEY CAN'T!!!!

Do you understand the meaning of FAILED EXPERIMENT? How much more $ is Google going to throw down the Indian rathole to develop products no one wants. If those stupid slumdogs had been working at Apple they would have had their assed FIRED by now.

Stop deluding yourself. Apple is run by Americans and has already beaten the crap out of Google. Google should stick to web search and not try to be Apple. Indiots cannot produce something like Apple does. You lose!


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United States Anonymous
September 13. 2011 06:22
Anonymous

Anything useful- one finds it is an invention of the Westerner i.e., by a non Indian. Mostly by American/British/European/Japanese.

Take for instance leak proof diapers that have proved to be a Godsend for many middle aged as well as babies. Tools that are used for everyday chores. One can keep on adding.Americans are excellent trouble shooters. My grandparents had to forget travel , pilgrimages altogether for lack of such diapers. They were made to feel guilty as their loss of bladder control was attributed to God's wrath. Called karma. This is what we Indians are. Consistently , lackadaisically fatalistic & inert.  

Indians' contribution is corruption , duplicity hubris filled sabre rattling , cheating & more lying to cover up lies.


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September 13. 2011 10:16
tunnel rat

Don't worry, insurgents, this bloviating blow-hard uscitizen will soon have his IP traced and will get the typical Anonymous-like retaliation the other slumdogs did and we will never here from him again.

As much fun as it is to read the delusional rantings of another marble-mouthed retard, I've grown tired of their shoe-pounding "WE WILL BURY YOU" fantasies.  


http://www.techinsurgent.com/http://www.techinsurgent.com/


United States James
September 13. 2011 14:49
James

uscitizen is not a US citizen. He's not even a 1st generation American. He is and always will be an INDIOT. You can jump out ofthe sewer, but you can't take the sewer out of you. You weren't born here so you're not 1st generation anything.

As for tech debates, we are still waiting for you to answer even one of my questions on IT, business, finance, or anything else, which you are apparently unable to do.

Faker.


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United States Drifter
September 13. 2011 15:11
Drifter

US - You're right. I'm not a developer, I'm a mechanic. I get calls to fix broken business processes, get involved, do some machete surgery, re-architect things and keep them running until I can take the training wheels off.

My current project - bring back in house the PMO, Change and Release from an indian outsourcer because they screwed everything up so bad. And the corporation finally decided to do something about it. 24M a year they paid these fakers and it has been nothing but mistakes, excuses, deflection and passing the blame. They'd had enough. You can only fake it for so long before it catches up with you. The contract with this temp worker firm is over at the end of November. 183 of you clowns - GONE. Buh-bye. Interviews with Americans have been going on for a few weeks now and we're building the replacement team. And you know what? It works. Every time. That's why I'm in demand. In the end - you get what you pay for. Period.

Am I a techie? I've been in the biz for 20 years and worked my way up from tech support. Got my MCSE when it was required. Got my PMP. ITIL certs. I went the management route instead of the dev route. But that doesn't mean I don't understand the mechanics of telecom, back office, client server, web and app dev etc. I HAVE to in order to manage you clowns. I've seen it all.

You see, American corporations are tired of throwing money away to people who claim to have experience and expertise. The trail of failed projects tells the story. There is a market in fixing your screwups - this is why I keep saying... Time is short for you all. The gig is up and you've been found out.


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U.A.E. axe
September 13. 2011 15:48
axe

Have you guys heard of American built software SugarSales CRM - it was open source software that was totally stolen and repackaged as vtiger by indians.  repackaging means a different logo.  it was a landmark event a few years back.  

I am not an open source guy but supposedly there is a man-code that you don't violate... Vtiger did just that.


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United States uscitizen
September 13. 2011 20:24
uscitizen

@drifter, you are what your name says. A nomad a gypsy, a junkie a jobless piece of trash that lives in his mother's trailer.

@tunnel fuck, you need more smarts than making asp.net sites using Turdy studio to determine who I am based on my IP.

@James fuckface
I had fun yesterday boring, reaming and counterboring into all your holes and bloodying it beyond repair. Today you comes back whimpering spewing more hatred. James, didn't you get enough yesterday ?

Let me tell you something. YOU ARE THE SENILE, UNEMPLOYED FUCKING BUM. I NOT ONLY HAVE A JOB, BUT I AM AN EMPLOYER. I will ask the questions and you politely answer me back addressing me "Sir". When I tell you something, its in your best interest to listen to me and thank me for my advice.

You have 2 choices

Choice A
Spend a few hours...google and write another reply trying to prove you know more than I do in the process jerk off and ejaculate.

Choice B:
Learn a skill (if you can) that will make you employable.

Which will it be ?

I feel sorry for you, I truly do.

Today I am bored, I dont feel like sodomizing you. Off you go...

Buh bye fuckturds,


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U.A.E. axe
September 13. 2011 22:26
axe

I bet you this uscitizen is all of 5 feet 3, 94 pounds, glasses, never-laid, gold rings, ugly as sin and smell like goat semen.  

i wonder what this turd would be if he was back in India.


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United States Drifter
September 13. 2011 23:03
Drifter

@drifter, you are what your name says. A nomad a gypsy, a junkie a jobless piece of trash that lives in his mother's trailer

*yawn*....


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Canada ezygoer
September 13. 2011 23:32
ezygoer

Well insurgents look around in your workplaces esp. in NJ, Virginia, Georgia, Texas and see if you can find the "Indian housewife" masquerading as "software testers" , "project managers" etc etc !!

This is the kind of joke that IT has produced by Corporate America and India Inc. with the visa programs i.e imports from the third world for easy money displacing American techies in the way !!


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United States James
September 14. 2011 00:37
James

As expected, uscitizen didn't answer a single one of my questions. He can't even answer simple C++ questions, let alone Objective-C. Nor can he answer basic accounting questions. And he owns a business? SURE.

He's probably some desperate benched slumdog living with 19 of his buddies in a one room apartment praying to that elephant-pig Ganesh to please give him a job so he won't be deported.

See, this is the thing with Indiots: they BOAST like mad but when you test them on their knowledge they can't even answer one question. Most of these guys from the Curry Containment Field can't even pass the 7th grade in US let alone code. They are here pu,,ing off the corporate heists and that is all. Then we get called in to clean up the messes thsy made when they get fired by unsuspecting US companies.

India can't even run an intrrnational sporting event and they are going to write code? SURE.

India is an embarassment unto itself. They have to come here like parasites so they don't have to answer the embarassing question: "Where are you from"? And have to answer "INDIA"!

HAHAHA!

As for me, I have my own iOS company. Objective-C is the hottest skill in IT right now. Too bad you're unable to code in it. Go back to your script kiddi'ing and do try to find a job so you won't be deported.

What a loser.


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 Anonymous
September 14. 2011 00:53
Anonymous

Kick these jingoistic Indians out of America deporting them to India. Let them get a taste of real India that has consistently been deteriorating yet has the audacious gall to compare itself with USA.

Mainstream English media is utterly useless. Bitten by the bug of jingoism. It is regional press that exposes India split wide open.

The other day I read , though lots of ambulances ply in Tamil Nadu , they are not exactly what they are supposed to be , say in America / Europe. Often the same vehicle is used to carry dead bodies also. They function more like call taxis. Inside the ambulance it lacks all that it is meant to have to resuscitate a patient . Paramedical staff are mostly not there . If present are ill qualified.

When queried a Police Officer said :-

" The law says we should ensure the exterior is ambulance like....we have nothing to do with what the interior is equipped with ".

For decades India systematically took determined steps backwards which affected education the crucial sector. And we are reaping the fruits. When news about fraudulent Indian doctors in America broke out a lot of comments by Indians were so unlike this smug "uscitizen" above.

One such comment was:-

" Aha , Indians are spreading their fame far & wide. After making a mess here  are creating chaos in America also ".


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United States James
September 14. 2011 01:07
James

uscitizen,

Can you tell us how many white US citizens born here you employ at your so-called company. Put their withholding statements online so we can see them.

You can black out their names/SSNs/Addresses.

Come on, let's see you prove your claims.

If you can't then we have to assume 1) you don't even have a company, 2) you employ more slumdogs so you can further your colonization/takeover plan of America.

HA!


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United States James
September 14. 2011 01:14
James

India is going down hard now. The west is pulling investments out of India like mad. Take a look at this graph:

India among the least preferred emerging markets: BofA Merrill Lynch Survey

economictimes.indiatimes.com/.../9973500.cms

HAHAHAH!!! No wonder you all want to come here so badly.


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United States Anonymous
September 14. 2011 13:18
Anonymous

>>>>I NOT ONLY HAVE A JOB, BUT I AM AN EMPLOYER. I will ask the questions and you politely answer me back addressing me "Sir". When I tell you something, its in your best interest to listen to me and thank me for my advice>>>>

Only arrogant Indians talk this way.

Indians have long propagated the myth they alone make world class engineers, doctors & accountants. Come to think of it , all the ancient Hindu Temples whose architecture has been extolled by all were built by Indians who did not go to any IIT. There were mercifully no IITs then.

Too many engineering colleges have mushroomed in India as it is a lucrative venture for thugs called Indian politicians who own most of them. Even the guy who changes the candle & charcoal in waterfilters in India calls himself an engineer.

Once I asked a relative of mine who calls herself highly qualified electric engineer - cum management grad cum advanced computer programmer ( now working in Canada & settled there)to change an incandescent bulb in my house she replied :-

" I don't know. I  know  about handling of big transformers only ".

In Tamil Nadu alone political thugs (DMK an ally of Congress)have gobbled up a lot of real estate including agricultural lands destroying irrigation canals that were painstakenly constructed to hurriedly erect engineering colleges.

Only now more such shocking truths are coming out.These dubious people are going to shift the blame on America , Europe & Australia when the engineers find themselves unemployable. As America bashing is the only favourite pastime of ill informed Indians.

James ,

Thank you very much for marshalling so many 'exploits' of Indians. When America faced financial crunch Indians were purring so smugly blaming everything on America. And that nothing would ever happen to puncture Indians' hubris & financial security.


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United States americandad
September 15. 2011 10:33
americandad

I agree, as an Indian Unix Admin working in USA right now, that Americans in IT are far superior to most Indians in IT, reason being that most Indians take up IT due to lack of options and purely driven by the monetary incentive, while most Americans I have seen in IT get into it because of passion and the challenge of learning something very technical, consequently, most Americans in IT are oriented to take up challenges and indulge in out of the box thinking while most Indians are content with working in a job that gives a nice pay cheque. Facts are facts, and I have to agree with this.


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Denmark Indian
September 15. 2011 13:50
Indian

James and Drifter and all Other People over here-----

as an indian I would like to tell you that--hatred for americans is growing in india

Most of American women are seen as whores , There are Indian managers who call USA as Whore house

To All Americans , You need to rise up  and Deport these Indians , if not they will start their caste system and discriminate people on gender and class


In INDIA Education is synonymous to your Class--If you are More educated you can Get away from Molesting a young under age girl in INDIA


Kindly look at this video -where an Indian says that he is an MBA , but actually he wants to have sex with Minor in USA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU9vF3aiwi4


Look at this Young INDIA who wants Masturbate when an WHITE girl has sex with CAT

www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch



My INDIAN Manager was overjoyed when he happen to hear that --Russians are inviting Indians for Tech Jobs

He said that INDIANS can rape as Many White women as possible in Russia and get away..

----------------


Rape and Incest is part of Indian Culture---


Actually according to INDIAN Religion--

LORD Brahmna Created Humanity from Incestious Relation with his Daughter Saraswathi..


Brahma created Humans after having sex with his Daughter ----according to Saraswathi purana

-----------Kindly read this Carefully about origin of Hinduism and Incest--



The legend is given in the following `sacred' Vedic texts ( Spellman, p.28 ):

Aitareya Brahmana.III.33
Satapatha Brahmana.I.7.4.1ff; XIV, 4.2.1ff;
Matsya Purana.III.32 ff;
Bhagavata Purana.III.12.28ff.

Justification of Incest
In all these `holy' scriptures, this act of unrestrained incest is justified and upheld as a legal act !

" Brahma followed Savitri [ Sarasvati ], married her, and they lived together in a lotus for one hundred years. The Purana [ Matsya ] then points out that no question arises regarding prohibited acts of the gods since they do not reap the fruits of their karma (actions) as do mortals. A further justification of Brahma's action is given by noting that Brahma is the lord of the Vedas and Savitri is the goddess of the Vedas. They therefore are inseparable, and to unite the Vedas with the sacred prayer can surely be no evil."
( Spellman, p.30 )
However, the Vedas, which carry far more authority than the Puranic and Brahmanic texts cited above, enjoin this practice. Incest, far from being a `corruption' introduced after the Vedic Dark Ages, was thus a common practice during that age of barbarism and illiteracy, and is a Hindu institution perfectly sanctioned in the Vedas.

Vedic Sanction of Incest
One of the most irrefutable facts proving that Hinduism is evil right at its very foundation is the fact that the Vedas justify the beastly act of incest as a `sacred act'. This was no doubt an outcome of the strict practice of `brahmacharya' which produced hoards of sexually starved psychopathic sadhus. It is these mad sadhu Brahmins, the authors of the concocted Vedas, who justified and legalised incast. Indeed, the Vedas enjoin incest as a kind of marriage. This fact was utilised by Brahma when convincing his daughter Sarasvati (also known as Padma) to succumb to his unlimited lust :

" 8. On seeing his beautiful daughter Padma, Brahma was sexually excited. He wooed his daughter and wanted to copulate with her. How could a daughter give consent to her own father? Padma refused. Brahma could not give up his desire. He began to quote the Vedas to convince her that there was nothing wrong in having sex with anyone, anytime, anywhere for the sake of giving birth to a child. "
-- ( Puran )
This is the Vedic verse in Sanskrit which justifies incest and which was quoted by Brahma :
“Mathara Mupathya, susara Mupatithe, Puthrartheetha.
Sagamarthi, Napathra loka, nasthee thath.
Saravam paravo vindu ha, dasmath Puthrar tham.
Matharam suransathee Rehathee”
- ( Veda, cited in Puran )
Tranlated this verse means
" For the sake of a child one can enjoy his own sister or daughter, without any sin attached to it. "
( Puran )
There are other abundant examples of incest from the Vedic age. These prove that the Vedic Aryans regularly practiced incest of the father-daughter type and the brother-sister type ( Sita ). Moreover, the Vedas fully legalise this abominable practice. These evil practices continued right throughout the Brahmanic Dark Ages of 2599 years (1500 BC - 1000 AD). Thus, for example, Rama maried his sister Sita when she was still only 6 years old ( Sitaram ).


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United States L. Trotsky
September 16. 2011 00:14
L. Trotsky

"Too many engineering colleges have mushroomed in India as it is a lucrative venture for thugs called Indian politicians who own most of them. Even the guy who changes the candle & charcoal in waterfilters in India calls himself an engineer. "

I just saw a slumdog movie "3 Idiots" about three slumdogs who decide to go the "Imperial School of Engineering." The scene where the slumdog head of the school using the Fisher Space Pen as a symbol of excellence is priceless.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1187043/

I think even the wogs know what a joke they are marketing themselves as all genus techies.



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United States Anonymous
September 16. 2011 03:14
Anonymous

James & americandad ,

The issue is not just IT skills as I repeatedly emphasize.

Something has been seriously inherently wrong with most Indians' character including HINDU men & women for several decades. Much worse disease is they adamantinely refuse to take an honest look at themselves & face punishment. Everything is rotten in India. Which is why no one has the moral right to enforce punishment.

That is precisely the reason I have long given up mourning for the bomb blasts , accidents etc etc in INDIA & among INDIANS. Their anti American , anti Western toxic prejudices are so hardwired into them there is no cure. They only POSTURE to feel for 9/11 & several problems besetting Americans as they don't want to be deported to India.

I read the American Gentleman  who designed the current Memorial in New York where the Twin Towers stood on 9/11 was seeking his wife & her whereabouts as soon as the news broke out on 9/11.

There lies the answer.

Indians DO NOT KNOW what LOVE IS. Period.Indian spouses would be looking for bank documents , jewellery , stainless steel utensils, calculating funeral costs  breathtakingly FEIGNING bereavemnt , copious tears and planning remarriages for the sole purpose of COPULATION. Bitterly unpleasant but that is the TRUTH.

Consider Indian movie industry churning out movies for aeons. They cavort around singing oversized heady romantic lyrics. But LOVE that comes across in Hollywood movies sans song & dance routines is never to be found in Indian movies.

This is why I am convinced the pain of being born an Indian living among Indians posturing , lying , cheating , backstabbing makes you mellow & wise enough to pray to God to grant Salvation . Liberation from this meaningless sterile charade called life.


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United States Anonymous
September 16. 2011 03:48
Anonymous

I have been living here in Kuwait since 1992 October. God forbid, if I were to go back & settle down in India I would prefer DEATH. I mean it.

Ofcourse I yearn to visit ancient Temples , Holy Ganges , Haridwar , Thiruvannamalai , Kumbakonam , Kaanchi , Dakshineswar Kali etc etc etc. BUT I would pine equally to return to Kuwait also. I CERTAINLY don't look forward to settling down & living in India anymore. There is no Indian relative/acquaintance/neighbour I miss. The very thought of Indians  agitates me intensely.

They are THAT ABHORRENT.


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Canada Mark
September 16. 2011 04:05
Mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2OveO2NmeA

"PhD in Computer Engineering"



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Canada Mark
September 16. 2011 04:06
Mark



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United States James
September 16. 2011 04:37
James

Indian,

"as an indian I would like to tell you that--hatred for americans is growing in india"

So what? Who cares? Of course hatred for America is growing. After all, the corrupt Indian gov't has to cover up for it's 50 years of following the broken communist system. What do you expect the govt to teach Indian kids? "Sorry we screwed up and followed a failed system and India is a wreck as a result". No way - that might create a society which wants to overthrow the incompetent gov't. Much better to make a scapegoat like Hitler did with the Jews. Hence "You are poor because whitey robbed us" is taught in schools all over India. No wonder these people hate us when they come here. Problem is, it's not true.

"Most of American women are seen as whores , There are Indian managers who call USA as Whore house"

Jealousy. India ranks #1 in the world in prostitution and child prostetution. It's usually losers who talk trash about those who are better than they are. Indians are known the world over for being sex perverts. Look in the mirror, sludogs.

"To All Americans , You need to rise up  and Deport these Indians , if not they will start their caste system and discriminate people on gender and class"

What do you mean 'start'?

"In INDIA Education is synonymous to your Class--If you are More educated you can Get away from Molesting a young under age girl in INDIA"

You must mean like former Adobe manager Anil Bhavnani.

I don't think Vlad will put up with the kind of economy wrecking Indians have pulled on the USA.


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United States Anonymous
September 16. 2011 08:47
Anonymous

@L.Trotsky ,

The fetish for IIT , IIM & MBBS among Indians & subsequently their market value in contrived marriages where they demand huge dowries cannot be captured in words.Indian women are equally culpable.For them flaunting such  hiiigghly qualified husbands is so gratifying conferring much coveted status of  yuppies.

In a very crisp tautly illustrated cartoon an Indian writer brought it out well.He passed away recently being himself a Tambram from IIT.

This young boy is bludgeoned on his head by pushy parents to aim for entry into IIT.After going through the ordeal of painful intensive tutorials etc he does join IIT. Leaves for USA for a job. At the airport the mother hands over jars of  pickles & spicy powders seeing him off. After many years the son sends a letter which only says :-

" I am ok.Are you ok".

The alarmed parents importune him to come back. He returns aged & sick. Is withdrawn. Gets taken to a doctor for an all round checkup.

The doctor comes out & tells the parents:-

" Everything ok. But he can read & repeat only two English alphabets I & T. "  


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United States Anonymous
September 16. 2011 09:05
Anonymous

@ Indian,

Agree with the first part of your comments.

About Brahma , Saraswathi Lotus etc they are all allegorical. Not to be taken literally.

Pseudo pious Indians would do considerable environmental damage by plucking all lotus & cutting Trees unless told Lord resides there.Which IS the truth. Nature is God.

In a different way Westerner would convey the same truth counselling not to destroy Forests , flora & fauna. Poets like William Blake , Wordsworth , Thomas Gray, Tennyson also saw God in Nature. Tennyson in his letters talks of his experience of Nirvana in his own words.

Ramakrishna Paramahamsar, Thayumana Swamigal have poured out in raptures :-

" I saw no necessity to pluck & offer a flower on apprehending this Entire World as God with all flowers adorning Her/Him/It"


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