After over 10 years, I cancelled my Wall Street Journal subscription recently because I was sick of their pro-H-1B editorials.  Now it seems that the tide is turning and they are reporting the truth as opposed to NASSCOM propaganda.  What was a blurb in the WSJ India section is now front page news, news that the Insurgency has been proclaiming for years.  The myth of the "best and the brightest" has now been debunked and the world is now aware of the fraud known as the slumdog techie, or even the slumdog college graduate.  The tales of cheating, bogus degrees, and absurd incompentence demonstrated by the hordes of curry-scented scabs is writ large in this piece:

 

  • The Wall Street Journal

Many recent engineering grads in India say that after months of job hunting they are still unemployed and lack the skills necessary to join the workforce. Critics say corruption and low standards are to blame. Poh Si Teng reports from New Delhi.

BANGALORE, India—Call-center company 24/7 Customer Pvt. Ltd. is desperate to find new recruits who can answer questions by phone and email. It wants to hire 3,000 people this year. Yet in this country of 1.2 billion people, that is beginning to look like an impossible goal.

So few of the high school and college graduates who come through the door can communicate effectively in English, and so many lack a grasp of educational basics such as reading comprehension, that the company can hire just three out of every 100 applicants.

Flawed Miracle

The Journal is examining the threats to, and limits of, India's economic ascent.

India projects an image of a nation churning out hundreds of thousands of students every year who are well educated, a looming threat to the better-paid middle-class workers of the West. Their abilities in math have been cited by President Barack Obama as a reason why the U.S. is facing competitive challenges.

Yet 24/7 Customer's experience tells a very different story. Its increasing difficulty finding competent employees in India has forced the company to expand its search to the Philippines and Nicaragua. Most of its 8,000 employees are now based outside of India.

In the nation that made offshoring a household word, 24/7 finds itself so short of talent that it is having to offshore.

"With India's population size, it should be so much easier to find employees," says S. Nagarajan, founder of the company. "Instead, we're scouring every nook and cranny."

India's economic expansion was supposed to create opportunities for millions to rise out of poverty, get an education and land good jobs. But as India liberalized its economy starting in 1991 after decades of socialism, it failed to reform its heavily regulated education system.


Business executives say schools are hampered by overbearing bureaucracy and a focus on rote learning rather than critical thinking and comprehension. Government keeps tuition low, which makes schools accessible to more students, but also keeps teacher salaries and budgets low. What's more, say educators and business leaders, the curriculum in most places is outdated and disconnected from the real world.

"If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys," says Vijay Thadani, chief executive of New Delhi-based NIIT Ltd. India, a recruitment firm that also runs job-training programs for college graduates lacking the skills to land good jobs. [THAT IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ABOUT SLUMDOG H-1Bs FOR YEARS]

Muddying the picture is that on the surface, India appears to have met the demand for more educated workers with a quantum leap in graduates. Engineering colleges in India now have seats for 1.5 million students, nearly four times the 390,000 available in 2000, according to the National Association of Software and Services Companies, a trade group.

But 75% of technical graduates and more than 85% of general graduates are unemployable by India's high-growth global industries, including information technology and call centers, according to results from assessment tests administered by the group.[YEAH, NO SHIT]

Another survey, conducted annually by Pratham, a nongovernmental organization that aims to improve education for the poor, looked at grade-school performance at 13,000 schools across India. It found that about half of the country's fifth graders can't read at a second-grade level.

At stake is India's ability to sustain growth—its economy is projected to expand 9% this year—while maintaining its advantages as a low-cost place to do business.

The challenge is especially pressing given the country's more youthful population than the U.S., Europe and China. More than half of India's population is under the age of 25, and one million people a month are expected to seek to join the labor force here over the next decade, the Indian government estimates. The fear is that if these young people aren't trained well enough to participate in the country's glittering new economy, they pose a potential threat to India's stability.

"Economic reforms are not about goofy rich guys buying Mercedes cars," says Manish Sabharwal, managing director of Teamlease Services Ltd., an employee recruitment and training firm in Bangalore. "Twenty years of reforms are worth nothing if we can't get our kids into jobs."

[EDUCATE]

Yet even as the government and business leaders acknowledge the labor shortage, educational reforms are a long way from becoming law. A bill that gives schools more autonomy to design their own curriculum, for example, is expected to be introduced in the cabinet in the next few weeks, and in parliament later this year.

"I was not prepared at all to get a job," says Pradeep Singh, 23, who graduated last year from RKDF College of Engineering, one of the city of Bhopal's oldest engineering schools. He has been on five job interviews—none of which led to work. To make himself more attractive to potential employers, he has enrolled in a five-month-long computer programming course run by NIIT.

Mr. Singh and several other engineering graduates said they learned quickly that they needn't bother to go to some classes. "The faculty take it very casually, and the students take it very casually, like they've all agreed not to be bothered too much," Mr. Singh says. He says he routinely missed a couple of days of classes a week, and it took just three or four days of cramming from the textbook at the end of the semester to pass the exams.

Others said cheating, often in collaboration with test graders, is rampant. Deepak Sharma, 26, failed several exams when he was enrolled at a top engineering college outside of Delhi, until he finally figured out the trick: Writing his mobile number on the exam paper.

That's what he did for a theory-of-computation exam, and shortly after, he says the examiner called him and offered to pass him and his friends if they paid 10,000 rupees each, about $250. He and four friends pulled together the money, and they all passed the test.

"I feel almost 99% certain that if I didn't pay the money, I would have failed the exam again," says Mr. Sharma.

BC Nakra, Pro Vice Chancellor of ITM University, where Mr. Sharma studied, said in an interview that there is no cheating at his school, and that if anyone were spotted cheating in this way, he would be "behind bars." He said he had read about a case or two in the newspaper, and in the "rarest of the rare cases, it might happen somewhere, and if you blow [it] out of all proportions, it effects the entire community." The examiner couldn't be located for comment.

Cheating aside, the Indian education system needs to change its entire orientation to focus on learning, says Saurabh Govil, senior vice president in human resources at Wipro Technologies. Wipro, India's third largest software exporter by sales, says it has struggled to find skilled workers. The problem, says Mr. Govil, is immense: "How are you able to change the mind-set that knowledge is more than a stamp?"

At 24/7 Customer's recruiting center on a recent afternoon, 40 people were filling out forms in an interior lobby filled with bucket seats. In a glass-walled conference room, a human-resources executive interviewed a group of seven applicants. Six were recent college graduates, and one said he was enrolled in a correspondence degree program.

One by one, they delivered biographical monologues in halting English. [THAT IS WHAT THE INSURGENTS CALL HINGLISH] The interviewer interrupted one young man who spoke so fast, it was hard to tell what he was saying. The young man was instructed to compose himself and start from the beginning. He tried again, speaking just as fast, and was rejected after the first round.

Another applicant, Rajan Kumar, said he earned a bachelor's degree in engineering a couple of years ago. His hobby is watching cricket, he said, and his strength is punctuality [AND TROLLING FOR YOUNG GIRLS ON THE INTERNET, LIKE THIS SLUMDOG]. The interviewer, noting his engineering degree, asked why he isn't trying to get a job in a technical field, to which he replied: "Right now, I'm here." This explanation was judged inadequate, and Mr. Kumar was eliminated, too.

A 22-year-old man named Chaudhury Laxmikant Dash, who graduated last year, also with a bachelor's in engineering, said he's a game-show winner whose hobby is international travel. But when probed by the interviewer, he conceded, "Until now I have not traveled." Still, he made it through the first-round interview, along with two others, a woman and a man who filled out his application with just one name, Robinson.

For their next challenge, they had to type 25 words a minute. The woman typed a page only to learn her pace was too slow at 18 words a minute. Mr. Dash, sweating and hunched over, couldn't get his score high enough, despite two attempts.[YOU SHOULD SEE THEM TRY TO WRITE FUCKIN' CODE -- TALK ABOUT HUNT AND PECK!]

Only Mr. Robinson moved on to the third part of the test, featuring a single paragraph about nuclear war followed by three multiple-choice questions. Mr. Robinson stared at the screen, immobilized. [ANOTHER DAY AT THE OFFICE FOR MOST SLUMDOG H-1Bs] With his failure to pass the comprehension section, the last of the original group of applicants was eliminated.

The average graduate's "ability to comprehend and converse is very low," says Satya Sai Sylada, 24/7 Customer's head of hiring for India. "That's the biggest challenge we face." [THAT IS WHY I CALL THEM MARBLE-MOUTHED RETARDS]

Indeed, demand for skilled labor continues to grow. Tata Consultancy Services, part of the Tata Group, expects to hire 65,000 people this year, up from 38,000 last year and 700 in 1986.

Trying to bridge the widening chasm between job requirements and the skills of graduates, Tata has extended its internal training program. It puts fresh graduates through 72 days of training, double the duration in 1986, says Tata chief executive N. Chandrasekaran. Tata has a special campus in south India where it trains 9,000 recruits at a time, and has plans to bump that up to 10,000.

Wipro runs an even longer, 90-day training program [AND A CRIMINAL OPERATION] to address what Mr. Govil, the human-resources executive, calls the "inherent inadequacies" in Indian engineering education. The company can train 5,000 employees at once.

Both companies sent teams of employees to India's approximately 3,000 engineering colleges to assess the quality of each before they decided where to focus their campus recruiting efforts. Tata says 300 of the schools made the cut; for Wipro, only 100 did.

Tata has also begun recruiting and training liberal-arts students with no engineering background but who want secure jobs. And Wipro has set up a foundation that spends $4 million annually to train teachers. Participants attend week-long workshops and then get follow-up online mentoring. Some say that where they used to spend a third of class time with their backs to students, drawing diagrams on the blackboard, they now engage students in discussion and use audiovisual props.


Job applicants at 24/7, which says only three of 100 are qualified.

"Before, I didn't take the students into consideration," says Vishal Nitnaware, a senior lecturer in mechanical engineering at SVPM College of Engineering in rural Maharashtra state. Now, he says, he tries to engage them, so they're less nervous to speak up and participate in discussions.

This kind of teaching might have helped D.H. Shivanand, 25, the son of farmers from a village outside of Bangalore. He just finished a master's degree in business administration—in English—from one of Bangalore's top colleges. His father borrowed the $4,500 tuition from a small lending agency. Now, almost a year after graduating, Mr. Shivanand is still looking for an entry-level finance job. [I HAD THREE BASTARDS LIKE THIS WITH INDIAN DEGREES TRY TO SNEAK INTO MY CORPORATION RECENTLY AND I SHITCANNED THEM IN THE OPENING INTERVIEW]

Tata and IBM Corp., among dozens of other firms, turned him down, he says, after he repeatedly failed to answer questions correctly in the job interviews. He says he actually knew the answers but froze because he got nervous, so he's now taking a course to improve his confidence, interviewing skills and spoken English. His family is again pitching in, paying 6,000 rupees a month for his rent, or about $130, plus 1,500 rupees for the course, or $33.

"My family has invested so much money in my education, and they don't understand why I am still not finding a job," says Mr. Shivanand. "They are hoping very, very much that I get a job soon, so after all of their investment, I will finally support them."

—Poh Si Teng and Arlene Chang contributed to this article.

Write to Geeta Anand at geeta.anand@wsj.com


Comments (17) -


United States Cd
April 6. 2011 03:30
Cd

Excellent write up and from the Wall Street Journal


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United States db
April 6. 2011 03:30
db

Perhaps we can hire some genius h1bs to build us a nuke and wipe out all the diarrhea in Congress? This article just proves how powerless people are to get their elected officials to listen or care.


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United States James
April 6. 2011 04:37
James

BAWAHAHA!!!!

I guess WSJ had one too many subscribers who know the truth cancel their subscriptions to the shill rag. I wonder what that moron Tom Friedman is thinking now.

We've all known what is going in for over 13 years but it took WSJ facing extinction to finally wise up and tell which way the wund blows.

Just think of how frustrated the morons over at NASSCOM in India are feeling right about now. They've shovelled millions WSJ's way and haven't gotten jack for it. My guess is NASSCOM suddenly pulled the plug on the funding and WSJ was more than a little upset and turned on them. HAHA!

On top of that, now that this epic, massive fraud has finally been exposed, American techies are finally vindicated in their assertion that Indians are nothing but retards when it comes to working in the west. They destroyed Silicon Valley, they destroyed Wall St., and they destroyed Detroit, just to name a few. The housing collapse and banking crises were their fault too. 10 million of these morons have TORN THROUGH our economy for the past 13 years destroying everything in their path.

Make no mistake, this is THE beginning of the end of India, Inc, in America.

We have finally won.


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United Kingdom anon
April 6. 2011 05:56
anon

www.techmarketview.com/.../and-then-there-were-none

wipro has sacked every white non indian member of its senior leadership team, something which would be labelled racist if it happened the other way around


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 Anonymous
April 6. 2011 07:42
Anonymous

" He says he actually knew the answers but froze because he got nervous..."

Shivanand is right. Most Indian teachers right from kindergarten levels treat the students as adversaries.I  passed out of an Indian school & so did my son. The atmosphere itself is overwhelmingly intimidating. Home front is no better as a person's worth is adjudged on the basis of percentages scored & the Teachers' biased reporting. A student just cannot afford to 'fail' as he/she gets branded as good for nothing & written off.

Whereas I find children including toddlers born & brought up in Western countries like America , Canada etc carry themselves with aplomb. Are more relaxed , articulate , well mannered & self possessed.

India's overpopulation is indeed a curse. Too many people constrained to share limited resources. For too long the rabidly anti American anti Western Indian leftists have been calling the shots in India. Thus English was neglected spitefully. Though the hypocrites managed to send their children to good convents within India or abroad. Even today the leftists are not a spent force. Quality of teachers has also deteriorated.

If the right amount of money can procure any forged certificate in India  can you expect excellence ? This applies to many Indian doctors also.Not just engineers.    


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 Anonymous
April 6. 2011 08:00
Anonymous

Most Indians form their opinions based on heavily biased , atrociously self congratulatory Indian media.  When recruiting & training call center employees the Indian in charge invariably would start with (sic) " You know the average American is dumb & stupid ..". Add to that the well entrenched pride in most Indians of their mathematical prowess , trophies won in spelling contests & besottment with cricket mania.

When their presumed superiority gets dented trust them to turn bellicose & defensive.  


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United States Dragon
April 6. 2011 11:42
Dragon

Look down section below, the name of the person who wrote this report is a Chinese person "Poh Si Teng and Arlene Chang", it could be the competition from China and India. They are both bad dogs I don't pick either side. No wonder I work with so many low competence indian workers, they are even lower than beginner level. Most of them got kick out after several months. Trust me there is some good indian programmers out there as well but you don't see much around because they charge more. Back in the late 90s I saw few good Indian programmers but not now, I hardly see them as all. I guess they just dump a bunch of shits to US companies because they want them cheap. US companies deserve it man and I have no regret for them. There is ain't any best and brightest H-1B visa workers out there and let those US companies figure out by themself.. Too bad..


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United States Drifter
April 6. 2011 19:15
Drifter

The cracks are widening. I see less of the arrogant delusional hubris these days as well. (thank God - it was so annoying to watch them blindly preach to the choir) You can't train some farmer for 72 days and let them loose expecting good results in innovation, creativity and integrity.

I don't think there is any way out of this for them - there are news reports of fraud and corruption every day now. They'll go down denying everything - admitting nothing, as usual. They NEVER admit they were wrong - it's ALWAYS because you didn't explain clearly enough what you wanted or someone else was to blame. Deflection. Always.

I want to see NASSCOM dissolved and IV go dormant - like a ghost town. Pleading to our political leaders and sending flowers.... ugh. Desperation. It's a smelly cologne.

The problem is, there are still way too many of them around gumming up the works. Hopefully we'll begin seeing a reduction as contracts don't get renewed or they give up and go home because they can't snow anybody any longer.

It's all over but the cryin - Game. Set. Match.


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United States Poonibaba
April 6. 2011 23:46
Poonibaba

And let's not forget that corrupt to the bone lowlife dog "Raj Rajaratnan" from Galleon Group, guilty of insider trading, who was fed information by another dirty dog named Gupta from Goldman Sachs.  When taken into custody, Raj asked the bail bondsman how much money it would take to bribe the judge, stating "We do this all the time in India...blah blah blah".  The bondsman asked Raj if he was out of his f*****g mind even considering such an arrogant thing, as it's obvious he thinks he can pull his Bangalore political bs here in the United States.  I can certainly guarantee that both Raj and Gupta started here as H1-Bs and petitioned for a greencard and got it, yet they still think they're back in mother India and can resort to the same kind of corrupt bs here and not get away with it.  Well, I'm glad they both got busted and shitcanned from their jobs and will be spending a long time in the fed prison being bitches to some dude named Bubba.


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United States joshua
April 7. 2011 06:20
joshua

Please Please Please tell me *somebody* has tweeted this article
right into the face of slumdog Vineet Nayar of HCL,
that slumdog who just a year ago said americans were "unemployable"
can eat this article now

everyone tweet @vineetnayar and send the article around now now!


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United States Bobby Jindal
April 7. 2011 11:33
Bobby Jindal

Poonibaba,
Really...? Rajaratnam is not even an Indian...let alone use his bangalore bs politics...Its because of dumbfucks like you, the cheap-labor loving big business have been ruling this country.


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United States Heartlander
April 7. 2011 22:10
Heartlander

@Joshua: you might also wish for someone to tweet this

economictimes.indiatimes.com/.../7894300.cms


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United States On the Warpath in Detroit
April 7. 2011 22:38
On the Warpath in Detroit


"Really...? Rajaratnam is not even an Indian..."

Yes he is.
You lose.


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United States PK
April 7. 2011 23:17
PK

With all due respect, what took him so long? (To cancel his WSJ subscription?)

Did he read the whole thing everyday?  That thing is LONG!  And dull quite frankly and I'm not an intellectual slouch.

Even if he actually (amazingly) ENJOYS reading the WSJ (or finds it useful), he could get a much better value by going online or a used copy from an associate.  I simply don't have the time to read newspapers I find interesting.  

In addition, much of the reason for reading a newspaper are long gone.  The useful ads?  You can go online.  Great articles?  Drudge.  Or even google news.  


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United States Dragon
April 7. 2011 23:23
Dragon

Yeah Rajaratnam is not even an Indian but he is just a slumdog ! Ouch !!


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United States Bobby Jindal
April 8. 2011 12:52
Bobby Jindal

No wonder dumbfucks like Poonibaba or Detroit or Dragon keep getting screwed by their own politicians.


LOL...Rajaratnam is Indian...


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United States Poonibaba
April 8. 2011 19:34
Poonibaba

Jindal...are you high on your own supply of curry?  I suggest you get your head out of your tandoori and smell the fresh air...moderchoder


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