tunnel rat posted on November 8, 2010 22:54

Another Indian infiltrator, Arvind Panagariya, is peddling some more NASSCOM bullshit in the NY Times, in a piece titled "What Obama Can Learn From India."

At first, I thought he was going to be honest, and cover these topics:

1.  How to produce more cell phones than toilets

2.  How to keep you corrupt upper-caste oligarchy in charge

3.  How to lead the world in sales of "Mein Kampf"

4.  How to flood the world with millions of marble-mouthed slumdogs who remit 90% of their pay back to the upper-caste oligarchy

Instead, this slumdog peddled the typical crap:

The current U.S. administration, unfortunately, is succumbing to protectionist impulses. For instance, it recently imposed fee hikes of $2,000 or more on H1-B and L-1 visas for highly-skilled foreign workers at firms employing more than 50 workers, with half or more of their workers on H1-B visas. Another example is the discrimination in tax treatment based on whether the firms create jobs at home or abroad.

Of course, he was pretty much flamed in the comments section, except for the few illiterate slumdogs that chimed in from THE LAND THAT TIME FORGOT, like Sameer:

america gets 1.3 $
for each dollar the usa spend through outsourcing ... it means that a return of 30% ...
secondly ...
i find many Americans r much concerned for BPO jobs ...
personally i dun like BPO jobs ..
i believe as soon as the indian economy changes into a production based economy ...
BPO jobs will lose its shine in india ... as indian youths r much concerned about the "name nd fame" factor .. nd BPO jobs doesnt give so in india...
even today in india a engineering degree course or a medical degree course is the first preference of students ...
and regarding software jobs .. i believe if americans want to compete wid indian counterpart .. thn they must reconsider their salary figures as IT giants
hire indian software techie coz of their less salary demand ..

Thanks, you stupid fuck. 

But there was more insight from other Indians (I am seeing more bitching from the NRIs!):

Mr. Panagariya,

As an Indian techie who once used to be on the reviled H1B program, I feel that American engineers
have legitimate concerns in the employment immigration policies and related industry actions. Many American engineers with 20 years experience find that they are easily replaceable with foreigners with much less expertise and are willing to work for a little bit less. Unlike other professions like Medicine, Law or Business, there is not much growth in salary levels in Engineering with experience. Further the modern engineering process is designed to be compartmentalized and sent to the entity that will do it for the least cost - so to most employees the years of experience brings little advantage.

Irving, TX for example is full of "body shopping" companies floated by former Verizon employees, which offer H1B sponsorship, training and a possible placement with a client to almost anybody for a cost. Especially in their heydays till 2008, many of these H1B applicants used many tricks to burnish their resumes and inflate their experience - Housewives became experts in inventory management and pizza deliverers in supply chain management. Similarly there are innumerable violations of the intent of Work visa laws by employees, by employers and immigration lawyers who support them. Such violations not only hurt US workers but also other more legitimate H1B workers.

With these concerns in mind, it is a legitimate action on part of the American government to levy a USD2000 fee for every H1B or L1 worker that wishes to work there. The show of indignation on part of Indian outsourcing companies is duplicitous, especially when a typical worker bills out at 50 to 250 USD per hour. Let us say the median wage is 80 USD/hour - 400 per day or 2000 USD per week - Why is it so bad for the American government to get paid 1 weeks wages - that too probably once in 2 or 3 years. These modest fees are justified and the funds can be used for retraining programs in the US. Further India has similar rules - for example no foreigner is allowed to work if he is paid less than USD25000 - this is clearly a protectionist rule meant to prevent hordes of cheap workers invading India. So Indian government cannot complain about a US law that makes it a little bit more expensive to outsource work. In any case this will become a cost of business and will be passed on to the client, and may reduce the misuse of these visas.

Then you get the crap from the typical collaborator, who should get a tire-iron to his head:

Isn't the "they're stealing our jobs" refrain getting a little old? Reminds me of the "Gooback" episode of South Park.
How exactly are they stealing our jobs? That many American IT professionals have priced themselves out of the market is closer to the truth.
A couple years ago my company tasked me with staffing and managing a large org-wide program that had a big chunk of IT work. Our inhouse IT folks estimated the IT work to be about 30,000 hours, if I remember right. Given the timeline of the project, the estimate was that we'd need 2 IT project managers, 1 IT architect, 4 designers and 30 programmers.
We didn't employ enough IT staff to allocate to this, so we started looking outside.
The local staffing firms (similar to Manpower, KForce etc) gave impressive resumes, but the overall cost would have been upward of $15 million, because the hourly rates quoted ranged from $60 to $120.
Then we started looking at firms that do offshore work. The American company that we finally awarded the project to signed with us a fixed price contract for less than $5 million for executing the project, and an approx $1 million-a-year AMC. All the 30-odd programmers were based offshore - in India and the Philippines.
It's a better business model for them, it's better value for me as a business-owner.

Let us know when that off-shored project blows up, "manbearpig" and we'll round up some insurgents to clean it up, douchebag.

Then there is the typical eloquent response from an insurgent:

I love hearing about how "highly skilled" H1B and L1 visa holders promote productivity and so forth. The reality is that the H1B visa program, which once upon a time involved people with unique skill sets like a phd in solid state physics, etc, now are for any kind of job, assuming the person has the basic requirements of it. Thus programmers, engineers, etc are brought in under H1B's, many of them educated with no more then the equivalent of a 2 year associates degree here in the states.

And they are not paid market wages, they are paid a fraction of it, with no benefits, despite what the law says. More importantly, H1B visa holders are indentured servants, who cannot just go to another company and get a job that pays better, unless they can find someone to sponsor them. The Indian IT outsourcing/insourcing is not about productivity, it is about low wages, based on India turning out graduates of (for the most part) mediocre schools who are desperate for jobs, because without western companies, India produces very few jobs (other then outsourcing firms like infosys and wipro),so they have to in effect take jobs rather then create them themselves. And while there are many skilled Indian workers who are at the best level, a lot more frankly are mediocre at best, who get jobs because they are cheap, and the bosses at companies see this as being productive, since of course it saves them on salary and other things. Of course, the bosses don't see the other side of this, the often lack of quality (often caused by workers who don't understand what they are working on, or worse, as is common at many outsourcing firms in India, rapid turnover), and they also don't see what the employees of the company who have to oversea outsourced labor have to do to accomodate this workforce, spending a lot of time and effort, rather then in designing better ways to do things or better products, simply try to get the job done given what they are (and for all those of you who think the GOP is your friend, they just canned a bill that would have gotten rid of the tax credits companies get for outsourcing products).

And with IT, India is going to find that taking jobs from the west is going to end up cutting their own throat, much as export only societies like China are going to find, because cheap labor doesn't drive the kind of demand that the goods and services they are providing need, you cannot continue to create jobs based on cheap labor (put it this way, most of the Indian H1B workers in the US are not exactly happy; 99% of them, I can guarantee you,spend a lot of time trying to convince companies to sponsor their green card, so they can actually compete in the labor market and try to make a decent living). One of the problems with the Indian economy, much like the Chinese economy, is that the growth they are experiencing is coming on a zero sum basis, that what they take in their growth is taking away from others. They aren't creating new wealth, they aren't creating an internal market or creating new products or revolutionizing (sorry, Tom, but putting cell phone service on Mt. Everest is clever, but not exactly creating something new)...

Well said, wdef!


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United States James
November 9. 2010 00:02
James

Generally if you have to tell the world you're a "world power", you're not.


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United States James
November 9. 2010 00:17
James

Sorry Rat - hit save too early - delete that last one. What I meant to say was:

If Indians can do the same work at the same quality with lower prices, then why do all the companies they touch die.

You get what you pay for. Hire 3rd world workers, you get a 3rd world economy.

Every company that sends it work to India, gets shafted, if they can stay in biz at all.

Companies ruined or almost ruined by India, Inc:

Adaptec - Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
Apple R&D CLOSED in India in 2006
Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
Caymas - Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
Dell - call center (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Delta call centers (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Fannie Mae- Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty.
GM - Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
Microsoft - Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it's lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
Qantas - See AirBus above
Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010).
Skype (Madhu Yarlagadda fired)
State of Indiana $867 billion FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
State of Texas failed IBM project.
Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, has to be sold off to Oracle).
United - call center (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).

"How exactly are they stealing our jobs? That many American IT professionals have priced themselves out of the market is closer to the truth."

--> No, we haven't priced oursevles out. You've driven down wages to below sustainable wages in developed economies. And the poster who observed that without a healthy middle class companies can't sell their products was right on. That's the real reason for the world financial crisis - shifting the jobs from middle class to lower class and hence destroying the consumer class - which means we can lay blame for the worldwide collapse squarely on the shoulders of Indiots R' Us. And if you want a definition of stealing jobs, that would be foreign invaders taking over jobs created by other countries and other people who had to work real hard to create them and then give those jobs to people who didn't have to lift a finger to help create them. I know since theft is so rampant in India, it's hard for you to understand, but in the west, we don't take things that don't belong to us. IT was invented by Americans and up until 1998 it was 98% Americans. You were only supposed to be here temporarily and go home. What makes you think you're entitled to America's jobs at all. Invent your own industries and create your own jobs instead of stealing from others.

"A couple years ago my company tasked me with staffing and managing a large org-wide program that had a big chunk of IT work. Our inhouse IT folks estimated the IT work to be about 30,000 hours, if I remember right. Given the timeline of the project, the estimate was that we'd need 2 IT project managers, 1 IT architect, 4 designers and 30 programmers.
We didn't employ enough IT staff to allocate to this, so we started looking outside.
The local staffing firms (similar to Manpower, KForce etc) gave impressive resumes, but the overall cost would have been upward of $15 million, because the hourly rates quoted ranged from $60 to $120."

--> So you have a funding problem, not a cost problem. Go get some VC or make better products and use the additional income to hire real developers - not fake ones who are cheaper but who can't do the work. $1 an hour is too much if the product doesn't work and no one wants to buy it. Just ask Microsoft and Quark.

"Then we started looking at firms that do offshore work. The American company that we finally awarded the project to signed with us a fixed price contract for less than $5 million for executing the project, and an approx $1 million-a-year AMC. All the 30-odd programmers were based offshore - in India and the Philippines. It's a better business model for them, it's better value for me as a business-owner."

--> Except that that $5 million will be thrown down the Tandoori rathole and no usable product will ever result. The work will have to be brought back to America and redone anyway which will lead to even higher expenses. If you had just paid the going rate to begin with, you would have actually saved yourself $ and gotten it done sooner AND it would actually work and you could sell it. Get it done in amateur programming countries like India and Phillipines and you'll have junk that won't work - if the project ever gets done at all.

Outsourcing is a massive failure that sucks capital out of the U.S. while producing very little saleable product. That's the real reason for the economic crisis: India is getting paid, but not delivering. No wonder the economy is such a mess.

And if that is there all there is to it, then why don't U.S. companies follow that same logic and outsource their CEOs and executive managment also? After all, saving $40 million a year in CEO pay has to be a good thing too, right?


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United States Bobby Jindal
November 9. 2010 11:47
Bobby Jindal

Check out who's being credit for huge republican/tea party win last week. Its the face cover of this week's Businesswomen.

www.businessweek.com/.../b4203070002219.htm

Its been said that he has aced the elections. If you still guessing, its ***Tom Donohue***. There's a big photo of him down in this blog as well.

James - Thanks for your tea party support...Yup, democrats are "globalists", so continue listening to tea party ayotollahas and continue your GOP vote!!


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United Kingdom rahul gupta
November 9. 2010 11:55
rahul gupta


This is the real India. You can learn from it.

www.guba.com/.../30-days-Outsourcing-in-India


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United States On the Warpath in Detroit
November 9. 2010 17:06
On the Warpath in Detroit


"Generally if you have to tell the world you're a "world power", you're not."

And the same goes for "Global Companies"; I have read about collection agencies being outsourced to India who try to tell American holders of consumer debt that are required to pay their deliquent accounts to Indian firms contracted by American debt collection agencies. It doesn't work that way. A debt collection firm in another country doesn't have the authority to operate in the US. Calling it a "Global Company" just makes the firm look ridiculous. If you have debt you have to adhere to US law. A Global Company is just an imposter and a scare tactic. If you are ever contacted by the one of these firms, just say "I can't understand your horrible English" and hang up.

Offering India Social Security payments from US jobs is another scam that is in the making because Indian society has screwed up and can't provide for it's own people. It's also treason for our politicos to discuss this.


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United States On the Warpath in Detroit
November 9. 2010 17:12
On the Warpath in Detroit


"personally i dun like BPO jobs"

I dun like your terrible English. You would think that a "Global Giant" might attend some night school classes in how to write properly...


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United States James
November 9. 2010 22:30
James

Hey Anil,

Put this in your pipe and smoke it:

BWAHAHAHA!!!!!

Thanks India.

Boeing 787 makes emergency landing on test flight

news.yahoo.com/.../us_boeing_test_flight


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Canada ezygoer
November 9. 2010 22:31
ezygoer

All three parties have their own self interests - the H1-B wants a green card, Business wants cheap indentured labor in the US and Offshore firms want to make a buck which all shaft the US worker trying to make a living. The question is whether the US worker can overcome these threats to his or her standard of living and given the baloney going around of "Globalization" and "Free Trade" with politicians in the pockets of business there seems to be no way it's gonna happen !!


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United States BigR
November 10. 2010 00:35
BigR

ezygoer said:

"All three parties have their own self interests - the H1-B wants a green card, Business wants cheap indentured labor in the US and Offshore firms want to make a buck which all shaft the US worker trying to make a living."

Hey, why are you understating the number of parties who are looking after their self interests? There is a fourth party called American IT Professionals who have managed to retain their jobs. They relish the opportunity to hire overseas labor, cut costs for their divisions, become managers of H1-B/remote employees and thus move up the corporate ladder.
Then there is fifth party that comprises of IT pros unable to retain their jobs. They 'reinvent' themselves into patriotic Americans and start spinning fairy tales about how outsourcing is destroying America. If they are offered an opportunity to run an IT shop full of H1B workers, I bet they will change their tune and become ardent supporters of globalization.
As long as the # of those affected by globalization is reasonably small, there will be plenty of sound and fury, but nothing significant would come out of it.
Smile



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November 10. 2010 00:52
tunnel rat

"There is a fourth party called American IT Professionals who have managed to retain their jobs. They relish the opportunity to hire overseas labor, cut costs for their divisions, become managers of H1-B/remote employees and thus move up the corporate ladder. "

STFU, delusional slumdog.  American IT Professionals relish the opportunity to make mucho dinero cleaning up the filth that is called the 'failed offshore project'.

We'll be getting rich re-writing slumdog code, and getting even with collaborator managers that fucked us over in an attempt to save a few bucks.

You can count on that.


http://www.techinsurgent.com/http://www.techinsurgent.com/


United States BigR
November 10. 2010 08:26
BigR

"We'll be getting rich re-writing slumdog code, and getting even with collaborator managers that fucked us over in an attempt to save a few bucks. "

It doesn't take much to make bombastic claims. Here is some real news.

This February, Nasscom projected that IT exports from India in 2010-11 will growby 13% to 15%. If the actual performance of IT companies so far is any indication, the Nasscom projection could turn out to be a significant underestimate.

Almost every major IT company has announced revenue growth of 15% or more in the July-September quarter. In several cases, the growth is substantially higher, it’s 43% for Cognizant, 25% for TCS , 24% for Infosys and 53% for iGate.

Read rest of the story at

economictimes.indiatimes.com/.../6886307.cms

Now go ahead and state the lame excuses to explain this away.


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United States Heartlander
November 10. 2010 08:35
Heartlander

And there is a sixth party called stealth patriots, who as hiring managers and business founders do the right thing. So, Mr. H-1B, if your resume stops getting read, if your interviews dry up, if companies start asking you if you have any chance of requiring any sort of visa sponsorship before they will talk to you ......


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United States James
November 10. 2010 10:09
James

Jindal,

If you think Donohue had anything to do with republicans' win, you are delusuonal. No one had even heard of Donohue until it came to light all over the news that CoC was taking $ from foreign sources like India, Inc.

If you still think there is any difference between Dems & Repubs, you are even more delusional - they are all whores for the same big corporate interests and foreign interests that pay them.


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United States James
November 10. 2010 10:11
James

Oh and BusinessWeek? You must mean that mag that employs proIndia shills like sleeper Vivek Wadhwa.

Or that Bloomberg bought them to shut down the comments section because people like us were negating the message of the paid-for NASSCOM "news" stories.

Yeah, like BusinessWeek has an ceedibility.


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United States James
November 10. 2010 10:25
James

BigR

"Hey, why are you understating the number of parties who are looking after their self interests? There is a fourth party called American IT Professionals who have managed to retain their jobs. They relish the opportunity to hire overseas labor, cut costs for their divisions, become managers of H1-B/remote employees and thus move up the corporate ladder."

Cost-cutting is a sign of a company in trouble. If your innovatuon level is so low that your only way to survive is by cutting costs on labor, ylu're not going to be around long. Just look at all the IT majors who followed this route and who are now in decline. IT requires innovation and cheap foreign labor isn't innovating. Meanwhile Apple which still hires mostly Americans is tsking over the world. You can't deny reality. Anyone who still thinks a decade of cost cutting has been good for America hasn't been paying attention to the economic news in America or to Microsoft's and Sun's stock prices.

"Then there is fifth party that comprises of IT pros unable to retain their jobs. They 'reinvent' themselves into patriotic Americans and start spinning fairy tales about how outsourcing is destroying America. If they are offered an opportunity to run an IT shop full of H1B workers, I bet they will change their tune and become ardent supporters of globalization."

We don't need an opportunity to run an IT shop full of H-1Bs - we've been witnessing your incompetence for over a decade now and we know just how destructive you all are. Like I've said many times, let companies go ahead and hire slumdogs - those who do will all die off as the economy is now showing. In the end the only IT company left in the world will be American-run Apple. LOL.

"As long as the # of those affected by globalization is reasonably small, there will be plenty of sound and fury, but nothing significant would come out of it."

The number used to be small but the wakeup call has already hit America and the rest of the western world. 95% of American professionals and managers now believe outsourcing is the cause of our economic problems. You're swimming against the tide now and there's nothing you can do about it. Keep on wallowing in your delusions that everying in America for you is the same as before and that you're wanted or needed here.

I heard last week some H-1B arrests were actually made. This is just the beginning.


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United States James
November 10. 2010 10:36
James

BigR,

Oh and one more thing maderchod: only 17% of Americans believe free trade & globalization helps America:

www.thenation.com/.../end-free-trade-globalization

You're in a tiny, tiny majority of deluded morons who havn't yet realized the winds have shifted.

Time to pack your bags and go back to the Open Defecator Curry Containment Field.

LOL.


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United States Arrow
November 10. 2010 20:06
Arrow

Almost None of the CEO's in Indian Tech companies have any Tech experience.. They are all a bunch of Feudal scions investing blood money to sell gullible Indian Consultants at cheap prices and making them belive its a wonderful opportunity.. In fact much of the Middle management in Indian IT companies is a bunch of tired , exhausted folks looking for an easy life by abusing and exploiting the younger generation - without even realizing importance of training and development.. They Invest in USA to get the investor Visa and send their sons and daughters to prestigious institutions in US, while abusing the gullible Middle Class Indian workers by giving false promises.. Its sad to see a substantial fraction of the American Origin IT workforce being let go in the name of outsourcing..


Satyam fraud was a shining example ( Fraudyam) - Typical real estate feudal mafia landlord dowry seeking scumbag - Hope he rots in jail..


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United States Bobby Jindal
November 11. 2010 11:59
Bobby Jindal

James: they are all whores for the same big corporate interests and foreign interests that pay them.


Yea right...That's why just 2 weeks ago you left comments here praising in anticipation of republican win, right?. Not that you know who is behind the wins you claim "both party are whores"...? Cut the crap dude.


Ra ra to conservative justices like Scalia, Roberts or Thomas who ruled in favor of corporations in the Citizens United vs FEC case. Corporations can get elected whoever they want now just by throwing unlimited money.


And that decision was hailed by your tea party leaders like Palin, Beck, Limbaugh etc..


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United States Bobby Jindal
November 11. 2010 12:01
Bobby Jindal

Arrow: Satyam fraud was a shining example ( Fraudyam) - Typical real estate feudal mafia landlord dowry seeking scumbag - Hope he rots in jail..


Have to give you credit there for nailing the truth.


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United States James
November 12. 2010 07:34
James

BigR,

"NEW DELHI: Indian industrial output growth slowed sharply in September to 4.4 per cent compared with 8.2 per cent in the same month of last year, government data showed Friday.

The output from factories, mines and utilities in Asia's third-largest economy was well below forecasts by economists, who had expected a rise of around seven per cent from a year earlier.

The Indian production was also far below rival China's industrial output, which expanded 13.1 per cent year-on-year in October, according to figures released this week."

Explain it away? It comes from an Indian source. Satyam was supposed to be booming too.

Can you provide us any sources outside of India that can prove those growth rates. Given India's long history of buying hype in U.S. media, we can only assume these outrageous growth rates are hyped too. The only "growth" going on in India is due to Slumdogs in the USA sending remittances home while producing nothing.

Face it - India doesn't exactly have the best reputatuon on integrity.


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United States Superbug
November 13. 2010 18:58
Superbug

"The Indian production was also far below rival China's industrial output, which expanded 13.1 per cent year-on-year in October, according to figures released this week."

This may explain why Obama dragged hundreds of US CEOs to Mangojuiceland hoping to set up shop there in a vain attempt to contain/compete with the Chinese. Good luck, America, with that US/India "strategic alliance" thing with these world-class "inventors". You'll need it.


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United States James
November 14. 2010 18:51
James

@Superbug

Keep dreaming. With another round of QE, China's price and cost advantage will soon evaporate. Let's see China compete once the playing field is leveled and their trade cheating advantage is negated. LOL. Once it is forced to compete fairly, China is totally doomed. Just wait and see. Enjoy all those worthless bonds you're holding. LOL.


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United States Bobby Jindal
November 15. 2010 12:09
Bobby Jindal

James: "Just wait and see. "


Sure we will wait...is it in years or decades?

Why do you always come up as some cry baby, James?


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