Filed under "Collaborators Pay For Giving Your Data To Slumdogs":

"Policyholders, meanwhile, inundated the Department of Insurance with complaints about PacifiCare losing their records, some of which were shipped to India, where they were miscoded and could not be retrieved. Many customers said the insurer denied claims for covered procedures and then ignored requests for help."

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pacificare-unitedhealth-20100908,0,6380098.story

THERE WILL BE RETRIBUTION

 


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United States BigR
September 8. 2010 00:52
BigR

India is mentioned only once in the entire article. If a company has issues with its own processes, then its outsourcing operations will also be beset with similar issues. It is dumb to blame it on the offshore workers who are marginal players hired primarily to cut costs, courtesy exaggerated valuation of dollar against rupee.
The problem is of corporate governance. Miserable attempt to fix the blame on offshoring will not get you anywhere.


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United States James
September 8. 2010 05:25
James

Surprise, surprise. Sounds like another repeat of CountryWide. One more company screwed up by Indiot wannabes.


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September 8. 2010 09:20
tunnel rat

BigR:  "Marginal" is the operative word.  Send you data to some third world shithole that is run on generators and you are bound to have disasters like this.


http://www.techinsurgent.com/http://www.techinsurgent.com/


September 8. 2010 09:30
tunnel rat

FYI readers, BigR is a NASSCOM shill in India.  Here is his IP info:

http://whois.domaintools.com/123.238.140.4


http://www.techinsurgent.com/http://www.techinsurgent.com/


United States BigR
September 8. 2010 09:57
BigR

TR,
Nice diversionary tactics when you run out of arguments. Your title tries to mislead that Pacificare has already been fined $9 billion, that too for 'sending records to India'. your link or any other credible link cannot substantiate that.

Sincerely,
Big, Bad NASSCOM Shill Smile


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United States James
September 8. 2010 10:27
James

Hahaha. A Reliance troll. You know we are having a pretty serious effect when someone from Reliance is watching. They are all scared shitless that USA will outlaw offshoring and they won't have enough $ to go see their next Bollywood slut movie.

LOL. Don't they have any work to do over there at Reliance that they have time to come on here and mess around with us?


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United States Bobby Jindal
September 8. 2010 14:08
Bobby Jindal

"FYI readers, BigR is a NASSCOM shill in India.  Here is his IP info"


So be it...who cares? What he says is truth and you know it. You are all just puppets being controlled by billionaire tea party/GOP big brothers.

Hurray to Bush, Jindal, Randhawa Haley, Murdoch,...


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United States Drifter
September 8. 2010 20:36
Drifter

Obama skipping bangalore on his india trip and Ohio bans outsourcing.... add it to the growing pile LOL

BigR - you're losing. YOU. ARE. DONE. The ship is sinking. Outsourcing is dying. Even the President has turned against you. What say you, hmmmm?

But - we don't represent the rest of America. Do We.  :p


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United States James
September 8. 2010 20:45
James

Apparently Indiots haven't mastered waterslide technology yet either

failblog.org/.../


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United States KumarNation
September 8. 2010 22:56
KumarNation

Indiots, what make you think that the US still has jobs to outsource?  Wake up!


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Canada ezygoer
September 8. 2010 23:57
ezygoer

Hope Pacific does not spend another B on getting "Big" Business into the White House - then it will be more of the same as usual !!


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United States unemployed
September 9. 2010 00:38
unemployed


@BigR

Nice try, but no dice:

"If a company has issues with its own processes, then its outsourcing operations will also be beset with similar issues."

But what if outsourcing was the cause of the issues and not the other way around?


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United States Heartlander
September 9. 2010 07:52
Heartlander

I remember how the big offshoring/outsourcing management fad (and that's what all such trends really are) began. With a trickle. It took a few years to ramp up to where the average American could see and understand the threat. So too with the current rethinking of mass global labor arbitrage. But there's definitely something different in the air these days. Indians can bluster and sputter all they want: they have failed the test of time. They are not our saviors and we are not grateful. The honeymoon is over. Eventually, the party for India, Inc. will be too.


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United States BigR
September 9. 2010 12:03
BigR

"I remember how the big offshoring/outsourcing management fad (and that's what all such trends really are) began. With a trickle. It took a few years to ramp up to where the average American could see and understand the threat."

This happened to manufacturing way before IT outsourcing started. Average Americans could see and understand the threat to American manufacturing. Yet they didn't stop buying goods imported from China, S. Korea and Taiwan. There were periodic, feeble attempts to slap anti-dumping duties and put non-tariff barriers on imports from these countries. Here we are seeing similar actions in terms of visa fee hike, Ohio ban on outsourcing and Chuck Schumer's outburst(subsequently toned down).
It didn't mean anything then, it won't mean much now.

This is capitalism, American style.
Smile


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United States James
September 9. 2010 21:13
James

www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T100908005018.htm

"Despite their academic credentials, many Ph.D. holders in science suffer from high levels of unemployment and live unstable lives. Many of them are applying their academic knowledge in professions and work environments unrelated to their research. Based on this idea, a nonprofit organization comprising young researchers, Science Communication (SciCom) Japan, is providing online questionnaires to doctoral graduates who are already in nonscientific careers. "


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United States James
September 9. 2010 21:19
James

BWAHAHAHAH!

India drops to 51st position in global competitiveness ranking

economictimes.indiatimes.com/.../6525751.cms


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United States James
September 9. 2010 21:34
James

Seven blunders of Hyderabad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO3UPyVLPtQ


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United States James
September 9. 2010 21:37
James

ANother great quote from an Indian on YT:

"bio of few Indian great companys
Reliance----involved in massive fraud, tried to murder Nusli wadia of bombay dyeing ,never paid any Tax from 1975-1990.

Threatened Rajiv gandhi to bring down parliament if he doesnt santion jamnager steel plant

This list follows


Birlas group.. Lot many Indians dont know that Ghanshamdas birla funded Gandhis dandi match , Ghansham das birla funded vallabhai patel in freedom fight.

After Indian independence Birlas illegally annexed 200 million acres of land in panchayat raj scheme, this is massive fraud by any standard even today.

Birlas, threatened VP singh govt in delhi and a broker from Birla group has engineering biggest financial Insider trading scandal in Indian market history

Infosys...Owner of the company NR murthy was imprioned in Bulgaria as he illegally set up a company which promised bulgarian people jobs in USA.

His wife was drug trading allegations in ohio federal court, company was charged with sexual abuse scandal and many other scandals, Like the owner of company openly said , that he feels compuncted to sing INDIAN national anthem rather he wants to sing French anthem.

illegally annexed 12 million hectares of tribal lands.

vendata... a Mining company set up by British Indian, Anil agarwal who was responsible for massive human rights violation in states of orissa,jharkand.


Satyam------Ramalinga raju...Biggest scamster from India...No need to mention as his details are public


Tatas---Responsible for deporting 3.5 million tirbal people from tribal forests of singur, Used tribal people as contruction workers paying 20 cents a day salary ..

Mindtree,Aztecsoft---companys started by former infosys staff who have sexual molestation charges in Indian criminal court..


This list goes on....Research shows 70% of Indias great bussiness leaders are having atleat 20 criminal cases in Indian higher and lower courts.

85% of Indian parliamentarians have sexual abuse charges, 80% of Indian parliamentarians are involved in alteast 2 scams.

70% Mps,MLA and business leaders never pay income tax.

Recent tendulkar commission shown that 70% of lower and middle economic order indians spend 20 cents a day, while top 3% of Indians in higher economic order spend 2500$ a day"


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United States James
September 10. 2010 00:13
James

"hTis happened to manufacturing way before IT outsourcing started. Average Americans could see and understand the threat to American manufacturing. Yet they didn't stop buying goods imported from China, S. Korea and Taiwan. There were periodic, feeble attempts to slap anti-dumping duties and put non-tariff barriers on imports from these countries. Here we are seeing similar actions in terms of visa fee hike, Ohio ban on outsourcing and Chuck Schumer's outburst(subsequently toned down). It didn't mean anything then, it won't mean much now."

That was before America had no jobs and 20% unemployment. Now that people are unemployed, they are starting to ask questions. And the finger is clearly pointing straight at India and China. Protectionism is gaining steam around the world and if India & China can continue to practice rampant protectionism, then Americans can too. And Indeed many Americans are demanding it now. It's pretty much an open and shut case at this point. Now everyone is just figuring out how to politely escort the Indiots out of the U.S. without causing too much international resentment.

Reagan's slapping 100% tariffs on Japanese cars & electronics in the 80s can hardly be called feeble. In fact, that protectionism created 2 decades of a booming U.S. economy. That was before the dark times, before the Indiots.

It's just a matter of time before the rest of America wakes up. Word is spreading like wildfire and Americans are not going to put up with it for much longer. The India, Inc. takeover attempt has failed in more ways than one and Indians are not the most globally hated race on earth. No country wants you. UK is severely restricting immigration and it's only a matter of time until USA does the same. Just wait until Nov. you're going to see some BIG changes,

Besides, what does it say about a country whose own people are so desperate to get out? It can only mean that they are so pathetic at keeping their own country running that they have to latch on to someone else's.


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United States James
September 10. 2010 00:15
James

Sorry in the last post I meant "ndians are now the most globally hated race on earth".


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United States Heartlander
September 10. 2010 03:19
Heartlander

The backlash against the loss of manufacturing was nothing compared to the backlash against losing the jobs we were supposed to go get after being a manufacturing society. India, Inc. thinks nothing of pauperizing the majority of Americans. How many of our jobs would we have to give them before they say, "That's enough, we're satisfied." Americans are good enough at math to figure out the answer to that, and they don't like it. Besides, the death of American manufacturing is greatly exagerated. We are still a powerhouse there, too, just not in the old fashioned, people-intensive way.


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United States Heartlander
September 10. 2010 03:30
Heartlander

Besides, even the average American can look at India and get a good idea of how he will be treated should Indians become dominant over here. IT is a profession we pretty much invented, and you can see comments in the Indian press insulting to America in their assumption that we are dependent upon Indian IT workers because we can't do this work ourselves. Even the bagger at our grocery store knows better than that.

Indians have earned themselves a reputation. We should not have to take seriously or show respect for a country that doesn't cover its sewage or its dead bodies. Such a nation should not be showing its face in the first world.

I am typical in that I never used to feel hatred towards India. I used to be an admirer of the ancient culture and was understanding of the reasons why some things were as they were. But being on the receiving end of a decade of contempt and ignorance from people who ludicrously thought they were better, smarter, and more educated than me has changed that. I've been told that I can't speak good English, that I am not educated (my graduate degree is real and verifiable, unlike so many of theirs), and that I don't know how to make computers work and that I expect 6 figures for doing basic technician work. Wrong on all counts, and India has no idea how many enemies they have made over here. It's our country, and their quest to be accepted and admired here is going downhill fast.


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United States unemployed
September 10. 2010 12:52
unemployed


@BigR:

"Yet they didn't stop buying goods imported from China, S. Korea and Taiwan."

The big difference between those countries and India is that India uses deception and fraud in the production of their so-called "products".

Sorry if the truth hurts, BigR...


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United States James
September 10. 2010 14:03
James

Heartlander,

What is most disturbing of all is that all of the jobs that have gone overseas were created by (mostly white) Americans. The jobs created in the 60s-80s - mainly cars and electornics were given away to Japan for free. Japan did next to nothing to invent or create those jobs. Yet Japan has cornered the market on those jobs now.

Next came manufacturing. Nearly all modern manufacturing technology was created in America - now China has a lot of (but not all) those jobs even though China did not contribute one iota to creating that technology.

And now IT jobs, which were 98% white American male until 1998 are going to India and worse, we're bringing millions of Indiots here to take the jobs. Again, 100% created by Americans, Indiots didn't lift a finger to create a booming IT industry.

One does really have to wonder and ask: are the USA and American workers just a machine used by world communists (globalists) to provide the billions of unemployed dolts in the 3rd world with a western standard of living? If we are then we need to wake up to the fact that we are being used as a factory for new jobs for foreigners without compensation.

This is why outsourcing should not only be banned, but if not banned, then taxed heavily.

After all, Japan finally paid the price for stealing our auto industry - 100% tarriffs on all imported Japanese cars since the 1980s - Japan pays us heavily for the right to sell to us using one of our industires that they took over. We must do the same to India. There should be 100% additional tax on all foreign workers who enter America and work.


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Canada ezygoer
September 10. 2010 19:25
ezygoer

It's amusing to see that the Indian lobby want's the GOP in DC - but then it's under them that the H1-B laws were mostly liberalised during the Bush years. Putting Big Business in DC will be more detrimental to the US techie who will be fed the same story of how outsourcing is a small portion of the economy, the US worker can do more by re-training after outsourcing ( e.g head to the trailer park and blow meth)
  


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United States James
September 12. 2010 10:36
James

Ezgoer, you fool.

The H-1B laws were not liberalized under Bush. The massive H-1B visa cap increases came under Clinton in Oct. 1998 & April 2001 when he was still in office. Stop lying, everyone knows liberal communist policies are the same as H-1Bs.

True conservatives are for protectionism and for closing our borders.


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United States Bobby Jindal
September 13. 2010 11:54
Bobby Jindal

James aka the jerk,
1998 - Both senate and house was controlled by repubs...Clinton could not even have touched H1b increase with substantial republican support.

2001 Apr -No, Bush was already president by then with repubs holding both senate and house.


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Canada ezygoer
September 19. 2010 01:22
ezygoer

Tx - Babi J'ndal for showing James who is a FOOL. I have been watching the H1-B charade from 1992 and w/o Big Business aka GOP support this could not have happened. Profited from this though - for every 10K worker increase overseas from 2002 mostly in India IBM stock has been goin up $10 and so with others. It's only tunnel's blog that exposed this and the scourge of "outsourcing".
I was wondering whether unemployment in the US had to hit around 80% for workers to learn !!


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